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To: metmom
The concept of original sin is not taught in Scripture.

Assuming you mean by that that you don't believe in it, you've cleanly discarded Christianity itself.

Without original sin, some people can get to heaven without Jesus. If some people can get to heaven without Jesus, the next apostasy is to assert that all people can get to heaven without Jesus. The next apostasy after that is to assert that Jesus was nobody special.

Yet your rejection of original sin, which makes Protestantism, Catholicism, and to a great degree Orthodoxy into dead letters, will earn no condemnation from the anti-Catholic crowd here.

96 posted on 07/30/2018 9:26:48 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion; metmom
12Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

Romans 5:12-14 NASB

102 posted on 07/30/2018 9:49:07 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Campion
Without original sin, some people can get to heaven without Jesus.

No, that does not follow. It is often repeated in Scripture that one is not condemned due to what they are not culpable for, (Deuteronomy 24:16; 2Ki 14:5,6; 2Ch 25:4; Jer 31:29,30; Eze 18:20) Also in the judgement seat of Christ believers will be accountable for "the things done in his body," according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad." (2 Corinthians 5:10)

Moreover, the stated requirement for baptism is penitent whole-hearted faith, (Acts 2:38; 8:36,37) which the morally in cognizant cannot and need not choose to do, as they are not culpable of sin.

Yet this does not translate into some people getting to heaven without Jesus, which is impossible, (Jn. 14:6; Acts 4:12) but with God all things are, and if the Lord Jesus prayed "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do," (Luke 23:34) though in this case they made cognizant moral choices, though ignorant of them being evil, so also on His account the Lord can obtain acceptance of morally incognizant innocent souls, even of those aborted who could not be baptized.

That at least, is how I see it can happen. To the glory of God.

145 posted on 07/31/2018 1:31:18 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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