Per Islam, those involved in fighting the enemies of Allah, that's you, me and everyone else not Muslim, are not committing sin. It's the opposite....those not fighting the enemies of Allah are the apostates.
You seriously need to study the history of Islam and what happens in a country to the people when Islam takes over.
“You seriously need to study the history of Islam and what happens in a country to the people when Islam takes over.”
You have mentioned this a number of times since we started conversing. I probably have forgotten more about current islamic info than you can find on a questionable google and whatever the lying media throws at you. I’m probably not going to please you with this entry, but I am going to tell you the truth.
I entered the military in the army in 1967 and was in south east Asia shortly afterwards. I was hit near Laos and was forced to an MEB and retired. I came back in in 1975 in the air force and started training personnel on NBC. This went on, with additions to my training topics, into the early/middle nineties when I was hit again in the middle east. This MEB retired me permanent in 1995 with over 20 years. So, a full retirement
I got a call in 2000 to go back to work for the army on the civilian side of the house teaching NBC and terrorist tactics for the army, NAF, as the civilian equivalent of a 35L MOS. Later I was taken into federal all branch training of the same by the pentagon, civil service/Dod, and spent the last 7 years training multi branch and elected to a board to determine training. I have some expertise.
But here’s where the problem exists between you and I: you are talking moralities and I am talking legalities. I agree with you that it is a problem. The acceptance of islam as a religion is not my decision. That was done by “our” elected officials. And neither you nor I have a say in it as we are expected to accept their decision by law.
I’m sure you know what a shyster does. He takes you into confidence and then uses you to accomplish a goal. This is what is happening. The unfortunate thing about the islamic religion is that a vast majority of it’s practitioners do not understand how it works for the few.
The five largest followed religions in the world, as displayed by the World Atlas, are first Christianity at 2.22B, then Islam at 1.65B, Hinduism at 1.05B, Buddhism at 488M, and Shintoism at 104M. Did you notice a pattern here? The three of the top five are from the middle east. And they evolved the same in many ways, war and a need for domination being one of them.
The only difference between the religions is that some have evolved into a peaceful organization and others have not. Of the top five group, the two still based in the middle east did not evolve. So they are still going at it with few actually gaining ground on being civilized.
But I have no more to say about how they run their lives than I expect from them about mine. And as long as they fall under the criteria of a religion as determined by this country, they will be offered the opportunity to become a Mason. If that actual Mason promotes violence against this country or it’s citizens, and it is proven, he will be thrown out of the Craft and probably arrested.
But until that happens, in this country you, as an individual, are innocent until proven guilty. So they cannot be legally forced to resign or be disbarred. And they are welcome if they stay within the parameters of the law just like any other sub-group.
And it is, also, a problem that most islamists don’t know they are adding to the problem of expansion. And our way of government is ripe for the pickings and is no longer protected by location. But I, like any other citizen, am expected to follow the laws of out country. If you have a complaint about the determination of the intent of a group, then talk to your city’s mayor, your senator or representative, talk to your God and ask for direction. But Masons follow the law since the revolutionary war, And we won’t change that any different than you can as we would become the “secret organization” the media is claiming.
Besides, I am willing to bet,. because of our laws, you’ll find islamists in the kiwanis, moose, elks, and in state and federal jobs from the bottom of the pay grade to the president. There was a question about Obama and his choice, remember. Masons are no different than anyone else. And just as legal.
I thank you for the conversation, I hope you get accomplished on this that you want. I won’t help or hurt your efforts. Good luck and goodbye.
rwood