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To: metmom

I simply do not know how you got suckered into this, MetMom.

Jesus had the same flesh and blood and bone body when He “disappeared” into the crowd when they wanted to stone Him, so the walking through walls thing was happening BEFORE the Resurrection.

Jesus had the same flesh and blood and bone body when He walked on water, so the walking through walls type of miracle was happening before the Resurrection.

(What’s more difficult, to walk through a wall or to walk on water?)

This is ridiculous.

The real problem is that you are negating and discrediting Christ’s sacrifice on the Cross.

He was resurrected in His human nature, in His same FLESH which suffered no corruption.

But you are saying that Jesus was resurrected in His Divine nature, not His Human nature.

This is no where indicated in the Word, and it is heresy.

You are just making things up because it’s not fancy enough or super spiritual enough that Jesus was raised up in the same body in which He was crucified?

This is heresy and it negates the ABSOLUTE SACRIFICE of God sending His only Begotten Son to die in our place on the cross.

It was a sacrifice. It cost something. It was stressful to the point of bleeding through His sweat glands in the Garden. It was humiliating, and shameful to be stripped naked before the entire world and crucified like a dog on a stick. To be mocked and spit on and whipped within an inch of your life, with a fake crown pressed into your brain. And then, to check if you were dead, a spear is shivved into your ribs.

You are saying that none of that really mattered because God just snapped His fingers and put you into Spirit body, your glorified body. Which He could have really done at any moment in time, not just after three days.

But the reason God set out three days was so that the miracle of the resurrection of the fleshly body of Christ would be understood!!!!

And Jesus CLEARLY explains it was not a spirit body or glorified body or immortal body that He had, but His old body that was crucified on the cross and yet, somehow this body of flesh did not suffer corruption.

I don’t know how to explain your error any better than I have, but it is serious and it is heresy and you have much more explaining to do than I do to justify your position of believing in a bloodless alien-flesh immortal body at the resurrection.

It’s complete heresy, and antiChrist and it smacks of the Manifest Sons Of God type of NAR heresies.


777 posted on 07/06/2018 4:27:29 AM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Sontagged

That high horse is sure way up there. Take care you don’t”t fall off and fracture your knowitall.


784 posted on 07/06/2018 6:03:31 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Sontagged
Where did Jesus walk through walls before His resurrection?

Have you never heard the phrase “disappeared into the crowd”?

That didn’t need to be the same kind of miracle as walking therough a wall. All He would have needed to do was to blind the eyes of the people in the crowd so they couldn’t see Him.

I am NOT negating and discrediting His work on the cross or His life or suffering. I am not saying that allHe went through didn’t matter. It is not any of the things that you are accusing me of.

Scripture tells us that the incorruptible body is different.

1 Corinthians 15:35-57 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?” You foolish person! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain. But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body. For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish. There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.

So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.

I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:

“Death is swallowed up in victory.” “O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?”

The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

786 posted on 07/06/2018 6:24:25 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Sontagged; metmom; MHGinTN; boatbums; Elsie
The real problem is that you are negating and discrediting Christ’s sacrifice on the Cross.

What you miss, my FRiend, is that the Cross was not the scene where forgiveness took place. That was just the killing zone, and it was on earth. It was the place where Jesus' Blood was separated from His Body and gathered for the use at the place of atonement.

The forgiveness took place in Heaven, when His Blood was placed on the True Mercy Seat in the Holy of Holies there, and presented to the Mighty God to compensate for mankind's sins from Adam on, thus satisfying The Mighty God's Righteous Demands, and thereby placating His Just Wrath, with the consequence that peace was made by mankind's representative, Jesus Who was/is The Eternal High Priest. Having then completed His period of voluntary service to The Father, He was able to again take up the glory He had lain down, and be seated in His role of acting as Deity with God The Father, and ask for the Comforter to be sent to earth to govern His saints.

Again, the forgiveness took place in Heaven, not at the Cross, but rather after His ascension on Resurrection Day, in Heaven. But the Cross-death was absolutely necessary for the killing and bleeding that produced the precious Blood of Atonement in Heaven.

798 posted on 07/06/2018 4:33:49 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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