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To: blackpacific
Do you realize how absurd it would be for mere men to invent the idea that bread and wine are changed substantially at the hand of Jesus’ priests at the words of consecration into the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ, true God and true Man, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity made incarnate?

Yet that is exactly what Rome has done.

If, as Rome claims, Jesus told them to literally eat His flesh and blood as the crucifixion, the disciples should have been there to capture His blood.

Peter gives the correct answer though as to how one comes to know Christ in John 6.

67So Jesus said to the twelve, “You do not want to go away also, do you?”

68Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life.

69“We have believed and have come to know that You are the Holy One of God.” John 6:67-69 NASB

If you compare this passage with the Last Supper as recorded by John you will note the language John uses to record meal at the Last Supper.

26Jesus then answered, “That is the one for whom I shall dip the morsel and give it to him.” So when He had dipped the morsel, He took and gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot. John 13:26 NASB

Now, compare all of the texts involving the Last Supper.

Matthew 26:26-29 Mark 14:22-24 Luke 22:14-20 John 13:21-26 1 Corinthians 11:23-26
26While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.” 27And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you;

28for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.

29“But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”

22While they were eating, He took some bread, and after a blessing He broke it, and gave it to them, and said, “Take it; this is My body.” 23And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, and they all drank from it.

24And He said to them, “This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.

25“Truly I say to you, I will never again drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”.

14When the hour had come, He reclined at the table, and the apostles with Him. 15And He said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; 16for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves; 18for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes.”19And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you;

do this in remembrance of Me.”

20And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.

21When Jesus had said this, He became troubled in spirit, and testified and said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, that one of you will betray Me.” 22The disciples began looking at one another, at a loss to know of which one He was speaking.23There was reclining on Jesus’ bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved. 24So Simon Peter gestured to him, and said to him, “Tell us who it is of whom He is speaking.” 25He, leaning back thus on Jesus’ bosom, said to Him, “Lord, who is it?”

26Jesus then answered, “That is the one for whom I shall dip the morsel and give it to him.” So when He had dipped the morsel, He took and gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.

23For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you;

do this in remembrance of Me.”

25In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.

Key Phrases/words:

Poured out: In the OT the blood sacrifice was never consumed; it was always poured out. We further have the drink offering which was poured out before God as a sacrifice (Ex 29:40, Numbers 15:4-5).

29.11 ἀνάμνησις, εως f: (derivative of ἀναμιμνῄσκω ‘to cause to remember,’ 29.10) the means for causing someone to remember—‘means of remembering, reminder.’ ἀλλ’ ἐν αὐταῖς ἀνάμνησις ἁμαρτιῶν κατ’ ἐνιαυτόν ‘but in those (sacrifices) there is a yearly reminder of sins’ or ‘… that people have sinned’ He 10:3. Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 347). New York: United Bible Societies.

Transubstantiation is not in there no matter how much you look.

142 posted on 06/24/2018 8:24:36 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Very nice summary!


143 posted on 06/24/2018 9:08:42 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ealgeone

Jesus Christ instituted the Sacaments, not the church.

Just as the word “transubstantiation” is not in the sacred scriptures, neither is the word “trinity”, but that is not an argument against either reality.


147 posted on 06/24/2018 9:45:53 PM PDT by blackpacific
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To: ealgeone

Matthew 26:28 “for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. “

Which is POURED OUT for the forgiveness of sins, not CONSUMED for the forgiveness os sins.


164 posted on 06/25/2018 6:46:35 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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