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To: Luircin

My “point” is that those verses cite the clear necessity of faith AND works, not faith alone.

They are the words of both Paul and Christ which contradict your assertion.

You are the one cherry picking to make your point while ignore all of the scripture to the contrary.


55 posted on 06/08/2018 10:03:49 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry

So you’re calling the Apostle Paul a liar then when he says that salvation is by grace through faith and NOT by works, so that no one may boast.

While right above this post, I’ve already addressed works.

Seems you’re the cherry picking one here, completely ignoring the Apostle himself in order to defend your false theology.


62 posted on 06/08/2018 10:13:09 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: G Larry

I wrote two comments about this in detail here, starting with this post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3661576/posts?page=49#49

But the long and short of it is this question:

When you speak of works in “faith and works,” are you saying then works that are done without faith, outside faith, apart from faith?

In James’ letter, he was speaking correctively because at least some of the Christians he was writing to had adopted the heresy that having faith meant just saying with one’s lips that one has faith. Those people hadn’t truly repented
and believed on Jesus as their Savior.


66 posted on 06/08/2018 10:20:04 AM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: G Larry; Luircin
My “point” is that those verses cite the clear necessity of faith AND works, not faith alone.

Works are not necessary for salvation.

They are the fruit of it, showing that saving faith has been exercised, but do NOTHING to attain or apprehend salvation.

99 posted on 06/08/2018 11:08:57 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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