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To: boatbums
Let me get this straight...is it your contention that when Paul said we are saved by grace through faith and not by works, he was only talking about the works of obeying the Mosaic law?

Yes.

189 posted on 06/08/2018 6:46:14 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius; boatbums

Let me get this straight...is it your contention that when Paul said we are saved by grace through faith and not by works, he was only talking about the works of obeying the Mosaic law?

Yes.

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Well then, you don’t know the definition of the word ‘grace’ do you?

If you add anything to grace, even the best of works, in order to earn salvation, then it doesn’t become grace any more.

You can call a cat a dog all day long, but it doesn’t stop it from being a cat. You can claim that grace has to include works all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that the very definition of grace precludes works.

...and for that matter, considering that right after Paul says that we are not saved by works in Ephesians 2, he says that we are saved FOR good works, using the same word. Meaning that all the Romanists should be doing lots of Jewish things like they’re not.

In other words, the claim that when Paul says that salvation is not by works he only means works of the Jewish law is a great big load of crap.


191 posted on 06/08/2018 7:18:40 PM PDT by Luircin
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