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To: rwa265

So, I did some research about ex cathedra statements, and found that there is uncertainty about how many here are and I could not find the statements themselves anywhere.

Lots of Catholic sites talk about them, but do not provide the actual transcript.

The two that I was able to at least see acknowledged were the immaculate conception and the assumption of Mary.

Now, the questions I also could not find answers to were, are these on par with Scripture as God Breathed, Holy Spirit inspired revelation? Are they determined to be Truth, as in Truth as found in God’s word?

And what are the consequences of NOT believing them? IOW, if someone does not acknowledge them, does it affect their salvation?


336 posted on 06/06/2018 6:24:08 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom
The two that I was able to at least see acknowledged were the immaculate conception and the assumption of Mary.

YOu'd think they might jot those down somewhere.

And what are the consequences of NOT believing them? IOW, if someone does not acknowledge them, does it affect their salvation?

The Roman Catholic has to believe this per the proclamation or else.

Hence, if anyone shall dare — which God forbid! — to think otherwise than as has been defined by us, let him know and understand that he is condemned by his own judgment; that he has suffered shipwreck in the faith; that he has separated from the unity of the Church; and that, furthermore, by his own action he incurs the penalties established by law if he should are to express in words or writing or by any other outward means the errors he think in his heart.http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9ineff.htm

359 posted on 06/07/2018 6:51:12 PM PDT by ealgeone
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