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To: Mrs. Don-o

>>But without actual choice, everything is irrelevant.

It is when your choice is “I will not follow all your Commandments perfectly.” Because that is your choice. the only thing worse about not understanding your unrepented sin is spending your time in guilt worrying about your unrepented sin, because it is there and it will send you to hell.

My pastor loves to say, “Relax, you are worse than you think you are! But, the good news of the gospel is that Jesus Christ died as the payment for those sins and he gives you his perfect life to present to the Father.”

That is true Calvinism right there. Forget the robot analogies. They are lies.

But, if you it takes Christ’s work on the Cross plus your work to save you, then why did he die? Was he not powerful enough? Was he not good enough? did he not suffer enough for you that you feel the need to symbolically suffer a bit for yourself? Because that’s what it is. It is self-worship to think that your work is necessary. It is blasphemy to think that some other man can take your sins away.


49 posted on 05/26/2018 9:45:18 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Bryanw92
Philippians 2:13
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure
53 posted on 05/26/2018 9:58:58 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: Bryanw92
Although there's nothing anyone can do "on their own" to earn their salvation, there are things one can do that --- if unrepented --- are guaranteed to lose it.

Revelation 21:8
But as for cowards, the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Revelation 22:15
Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the unchaste, the murderers, the idol-worshipers, and all who love and practice deceit.

55 posted on 05/26/2018 10:05:04 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Bryanw92
My pastor loves to say, “Relax, you are worse than you think you are! But, the good news of the gospel is that Jesus Christ died as the payment for those sins and he gives you his perfect life to present to the Father.”

I love this.

But, if you it takes Christ’s work on the Cross plus your work to save you, then why did he die? Was he not powerful enough? Was he not good enough? did he not suffer enough for you that you feel the need to symbolically suffer a bit for yourself?

How do you construe Col 1:24 ?

The (very) old name for what is now "The Lay Fraternities of St. Dominic" was "The Order of Penance." But Dominicans are known for being jovial. Suffering and joy are not incompatible.

60 posted on 05/26/2018 10:34:32 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: Bryanw92
Forget the robot analogies. They are lies.

Explain how those are lies.

106 posted on 05/26/2018 3:42:27 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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