Posted on 05/16/2018 2:05:50 PM PDT by Coleus
Today, even the wealthy have their token 1 or 2 children, money isn't the issue, it's convenience and time, the same excuse used for abortion.
You know what they call people who practice NFP?
Catholics?
No: Parents!
Certain elements of our society don’t worry about this at all.
This article glosses over the very real and daunting challenges facing the middle class with regard to having a large family. Hand me down clothes and older siblings helping out? Great. What about the enormous monetary costs? I mean c’mon.
Trust in the Lord; he will provide for those who keep his laws.
Yet the very same denomination, the RCC, says Joseph and Mary did not have any children of their own.
Based on the above position of Roman Catholicism, they never should have entered into marriage.
Fortunately, we know the NT tells another story that Joseph and Mary did have kids of their own.
The NT tells nothing of the sort.
Are you sure you want to tell Catholics what to believe?
“The Gospel only speaks of the virginity of the Virgin up to the time of the birth of Jesus Christ. All with reference to Jesus Christ.”—Blaise Pascal, Pensees 742 (Proofs of Jesus Christ).
Pascal had a high view of SCRIPTURE.
“Fortunately, we know the NT tells another story that Joseph and Mary did have kids of their own.”
The NT tells nothing of the sort.”
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Yes, it does.
Well, if you read it the story is clear.
All I’m doing is again comparing Roman Catholic sources with Scripture and once again Roman Catholicism comes up wanting.
Are you trying to interpret the Scripture by yourself. YOPIOS style?
Have you ever heard a preacher say “Dear brothers and sisters?”
That’s how the words “brothers and sisters” was used in the New Testament — believers of the same faith — sometimes meaning relatives such as cousins.
Liberals intentionally lie about the cost of having children to discourage the responsible from having them or having very many.
It does NOT cost a quarter million plus to raise a child.
There is a specific word for cousin in the Greek. It is used one time in the NT.
There is a specific word for relatives.
And lastly....context is your key to properly understanding the Scriptures. I know that is a new concept I've introduced to Roman Catholics on these threads....but it is a very, very important one.
Catholics? No: Parents! >>>
from the article
They agreed they would use Natural Family Planning (NFP) after that to avoid a pregnancy. A few years later when they felt financially secure, he told me, they would have their first child. He admitted, however, that he was conflicted about whether they were really being “open to life” in their marriage if they were going into it with this kind of forethought and intention of avoiding children.
It works if you practice self-control.
and btw, for those who use birth-control pills and other forms of IUD's, abort their children, conception takes place, implantation does not. Then you have to factor in the birth-control pill and breast-cancer link. It's not worth it.
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The presumption that a papist has the slightest desire to understand scripture is usually way off base.
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Interesting pints being brought up.
If Joseph and Mary did marry, then is the rc position that they never consummated? Or that they did, but God sent no more children?
If they didn’t consummate that is not a true marriage, even according to rc doctrine right? It could be annulled.
If they were having sex like husbands and wives are generally supposed to, why would God withhold children? Of course He can donas he likes.
Official Roman Catholic dogma is Mary remained a virgin her whole life. Roman Catholics HAVE to believe that in order to be good Roman Catholics.
If they didn’t consummate that is not a true marriage, even according to rc doctrine right? It could be annulled.
That's my point...per what is posted in the article Joseph's and Mary's marriage is not a valid marriage in the eyes of Roman Catholicism as Rome says they were not going to have any children of their own and that is the purpose of marriage per Rome.
Roman Catholicism is in a bind on this one...though I doubt they will admit it. Roman Catholics don't like the discussion when these points are raised.
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