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Salvation and Church
OSV.com ^ | 03-14-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/21/2018 9:30:28 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Ahhh but you are mistaken because you repeatedly misunderstand and misstate the actual Doctrines and Dogma of His One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church so how can you know what you understand about your own man made beliefs is true?


161 posted on 04/21/2018 8:22:24 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: ealgeone

This one.

I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come.

Amen.


162 posted on 04/21/2018 8:37:13 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7
Well, we are not called to believe in Creeds.

I believe in Christ. He died for my sins. He offers forgiveness and I greatfully accept it though I don’t deserve it. I accept His Scriptures as Truth. That about covers it.

163 posted on 04/21/2018 8:42:10 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: infool7

Rome’s errors in doctrine and practice are easily revealed by the authority of God’s Word.

The counterfeit is nothing and has a million nuances.

His Word is perfect and by knowing it, the truth about the counterfeits is laid bare.


164 posted on 04/21/2018 8:43:17 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: ealgeone

So no trinity?


165 posted on 04/21/2018 8:44:06 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: ealgeone

The Bible is a Catholic document. If not for the Catholic Church you would have no idea who Jesus Christ was. The Gospels came from the Catholic Church, not the Church from the Gospels.


166 posted on 04/21/2018 8:46:04 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

So you just know because you know and you said so and so we should all believe you because... well you know...

Truly you have a dizzying intellect.


167 posted on 04/21/2018 8:48:06 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7

“So you just know because you know and you said so and so we should all believe you because... well you know...

No. I know because I read and study His Word, as Christians are commanded to do.

You should not believe me. You should study to show yourself approved, as He commands.


168 posted on 04/21/2018 8:52:29 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: NKP_Vet

Oh please. Not this already debunked claim again.


169 posted on 04/21/2018 8:55:10 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: infool7

Read my post.


170 posted on 04/21/2018 8:55:53 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Yes, of course.

I too read and study however my conclusions agree with the Fathers, Doctors and Saints of the One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ Jesus. Your conclusions it would seem do not.


171 posted on 04/21/2018 8:56:20 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7; aMorePerfectUnion

You do know you can read and understand the Word on your own.....right?


172 posted on 04/21/2018 8:57:14 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

I did read and it seems to me that if you only believe in Jesus then that excludes God the Father and the Holt Spirit, thus my question.

Perhaps it wasn’t clear enough.

Do you believe in the Holy Trinity or not?


173 posted on 04/21/2018 9:01:45 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: nobamanomore

So why are you doing it?


174 posted on 04/21/2018 10:06:29 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: nobamanomore

Stop posting in the Religion Forum right now.
Many of your posts will be removed for violating the guidelines.
Click on my name at the bottom of this post and study throughly before using the Religion Forum.


175 posted on 04/22/2018 12:21:11 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: ealgeone

You do know you can read and understand the Word on your own.....right?


Do you understand every word that is spoken by God?


176 posted on 04/22/2018 4:08:47 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Salvation

I’ve read the word of God well over a hundred times. Salvation is not “in the church,” but in Christ who is Lord and Savior; the One who died for the sins of man. The church didn’t die for man’s salvation, it’s a result of man’s salvation.


177 posted on 04/22/2018 4:33:23 AM PDT by evangmlw
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To: rwa265

As guided by the Spirit.


178 posted on 04/22/2018 5:08:06 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: infool7

Yep.


179 posted on 04/22/2018 5:08:55 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
For your lively discussion -- not argumentation.

Are you kidding or naive? You post on an open forum on a doctrine that historically damns all believers who will not submit to the pope , and which V2 such modified, contrary to how TradCaths understand it, and you do want to exclude argumentation?

180 posted on 04/22/2018 5:11:10 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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