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To: Boogieman

“Then Genesis is full of blasphemy, since Genesis tells us that man was created by God to serve Him and man disobeyed and rebelled.”


Man was given Free Will, and instructions as to how to obey God’s word. However, there’s no point to existence if you simply do what you’re programmed to do - and Free Will makes things interesting. Not necessarily good, and certainly not perfect, but interesting. Ask yourself why there are rules in the first place - if we didn’t have Free Will, if we just did the right thing automatically, then we wouldn’t need them, would we?

Angels were not given Free Will. Angels are, essentially, spiritual robots, which do as they are told (programmed) to do. Some (the higher ranking ones) have more autonomy...but they still cannot revolt. And if, somehow they did, God could wipe them out with a single thought.

The idea of a bad angel - the “Devil” or “Lucifer” or whomever - who revolted and can actually challenge God...THAT is blasphemy, since every being in the universe challenging God simultaneously would lose, totally and quickly.


29 posted on 04/19/2018 12:25:13 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

“Angels were not given Free Will. Angels are, essentially, spiritual robots, which do as they are told (programmed) to do.”

Yeah, we’re going to need some citation for that. We can take humans having free will as a given, based on our own experience, but since none of us are angels, you are going to have to establish that they do or do not have free will with testimony from someone who would be in a position to know.

“Some (the higher ranking ones) have more autonomy...but they still cannot revolt. And if, somehow they did, God could wipe them out with a single thought.”

God could also wipe humanity out with a single thought, yet He has not done so. That amply demonstrates that angels not having been destroyed is not sufficient evidence that they cannot or have not rebelled against God.

“The idea of a bad angel - the “Devil” or “Lucifer” or whomever - who revolted and can actually challenge God...THAT is blasphemy...”

If that were blasphemy, then the Bible is a blasphemous document, since Ezekiel chapter 28 talks of a cherub (an angel) who has sinned and been cast out of the mountain of God (heaven).


31 posted on 04/19/2018 1:52:01 PM PDT by Boogieman
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