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To: metmom
You are not nearly strong enough. These are not "gifts of the Spirit." This is another phase of the HERESY which first came to fruition with the Montanists. Don't give them any room to call it "gifts" and was revived with the Azusa Street Pentecostal Movement in LA in 1910. Today it is polished up with Hillsong Music, lively "Contemporary Worship," and other such nonsense.
61 posted on 04/17/2018 11:45:14 PM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: EliRoom8; metmom; Elsie; pastorbillrandles
I'm pretty sure metmom is discussing the same problem, most recently critiqued as the NAR or New Apostolic Reformation.

Pastor Bill Randles has written about this extensively.

Just because there are false prophets in the church does not negate Paul's invocation that “all should be ambitious to prophesy”...

The real issue is these false prophets and false preachers, of whom Christ warned us would be the horrific sign of his Second Coming, these apostates are operating under the supernatural influence of familiar spirits.

This is why there is some accuracy in what they preach or prophesy in the N.A.R.

And if you reject the “Gifts” of the Spirit as being for today, then you will not believe the “gift of discernment of spirits” is also for today, and you will not be able to discern that these people are operating out of demonic familiar spirits and other counterfeits... in the church.

How does Christ expect us to discern and judge “doctrines of demons” and “seducing spirits” that we are told will be rife in these latter days?

Jesus expects that we will be equipped by the Holy Spirit with the full flourishing of spiritual weapons... the gifts of prophecy, interpretation of tongues, words of knowledge, etc., etc.

We need to understand that, as Peter preached and the Prophet Joel prophesied, in these latter days, “I will pour out my Spirit on my manservants and maidservants” giving us dreams and visions so that we can function in this modern and increasingly evil world.

Jesus taught that what the forefathers of the faith, the old testament prophets longed to see but did not live to experience... Was that God's gift of the Holy Spirit, Jesus living in us, is a better thing than all under the Old Covenant had of God.

What we have after Pentecost and after the Holy Spirit fell in the upper room with the Disciples and Mary, is what we are to expect to have today in terms of the Gifts, but we are to apply and function in these gifts as Bereans, never going “beyond what is written” in terms of our experiences or doctrinal traditions. For He is the same yesterday, today and forever.

And what comes with a Biblical outpouring of the gifts of the spirit is an increasing responsibility of discernment of doctrine of demons and other seducing spirits of the heresies of the Mormons, the NAR, Freemasonic Ecumenicalism, Cessationist dead churches, etc., etc.

Praise God!

P.S. Just imagine if Joseph Smith put the teachings of the supernatural beings that spoke to him to the test of Scripture.

62 posted on 04/18/2018 12:10:57 AM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: EliRoom8
You are not nearly strong enough.

So on what basis are you making that judgment?

These are not "gifts of the Spirit." This is another phase of the HERESY which first came to fruition with the Montanists. Don't give them any room to call it "gifts" and was revived with the Azusa Street Pentecostal Movement in LA in 1910.

I looked back at the post to which you replied and cannot figure out how your response is relevant to that.

90 posted on 04/18/2018 11:59:42 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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