[armydoc]

Why would you have to repent since God forced you to desire salvation???

Because God ordains both the end and the means to the end. He has ordained repentance and faith as the means to salvation. I find it fascinating that someone would find the concept of God's complete sovereignty so repulsive.

[Iscool]

Because God ordains both the end and the means to the end. He has ordained repentance and faith as the means to salvation. I find it fascinating that someone would find the concept of God's complete sovereignty so repulsive.

Really??? So be repulsed then...

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

So how does that work with you guys??? God picks you to be saved...God then tells you to repent of your bad stuff so you can actually get saved afterward...What if you don't repent enough??? What if you decide it's too much work on your part???

Or maybe if God picks YOU, you're going to become a saved Christian whether you want to or not??? And God brought your parents together, and their parents and all the parents before them, so they could create the unique you who God chose before the foundation of the world???

I know I'm a born again Christian...I called out to God and he saved me, and before I repented of anything...