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To: dangus

Well it’s obviously sinful to play with your “Pelaginia”. It’s mostly because you are thinking dirty thoughts though.

WTH, I swear I’d need a -way- better attorney before I could ever be a catholic. Their theology reads like a brief in a securities fraud case.


8 posted on 04/10/2018 11:05:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

IN all honesty, papal encyclicals are expected to largely be read by bishops.


11 posted on 04/10/2018 11:52:33 AM PDT by dangus
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To: DesertRhino

I think you’re making fun of my typo spelling of Pelagianism, but in case you’re not, or there are lurkers out there, Pelagius was British heretic who allegedly denied that without divine intervention, humans are capable of attaining or possessing sanctity.

St. Augustine of Hippo famously corrected his errors, in doing so formulated the doctrine of original sin and the necessity of a unique act of salvation for each man. Semipelagianism is the notion that people HELP God help them through their own will.

The Catholic rejection of sola fides (”faith alone”) was misreported among Lutherans and subsequent groups of Protestants as Pelagianism. In reality, the Catholic Church’s position was that faith, itself, was a grace unobtainable without divine intervention.

Pope Francis’ comments, here, are a refreshing assertion that he upholds this doctrine, and that it has not been lost amidst ecumenism, interfaith outreach, and Francis’ own praise of certain characteristics of certain atheists.


13 posted on 04/10/2018 12:07:52 PM PDT by dangus
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