[Mrs. Don-o]

ZC, for all I know, O'Brien may be more Catholic than the pope. In fact,that wouldn't surprise me, as the present claimant to the papal title may have disqualified himself from the office by heresy, if he were even validly elected to begin with, which is open to debate.

I object, not to O'Brien as an individual, but I object to the refusal to advert to the Catechism as a source of reliable information about what the Catholic Church teaches.

Even if a person does not regard the Catechism as being an authoritative guide for himself, he must reasonably regard it as representative of Catholicism.

Chasing after O'Brien while obstinately ignoring the Catechism is just a red herring. Ir distracts from a reasonable discussion of Catholicism. and I won't do it anymore.

[ealgeone]

I object, not to O'Brien as an individual,....

Come on mrs.d....be honest on this. You did so a couple of posts ago!

[Zionist Conspirator]

I object, not to O'Brien as an individual, but I object to the refusal to advert to the Catechism as a source of reliable information about what the Catholic Church teaches.

Even if a person does not regard the Catechism as being an authoritative guide for himself, he must reasonably regard it as representative of Catholicism.

The Catechism you mention represents modern, post VII Catholicism. To insist that nothing changed at VII, that the church before is identical in every way to the one after, is to deny the obvious.