Posted on 02/22/2018 8:33:27 PM PST by ebb tide
The Francis Effect meeting the German Heresiarchy leads to an explosive decision of cataclysmic consequences.
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- Matthew 23:9
If it is as you described, it is just as outlined above.
Contact the Bishop and do not let up until this is stopped.
Picket the rectory. If that doesn't work, picket the chancery.
I am serious. This must be stopped.
Of course.
What do you think confession is really all about?
Not even a teeny-tiny little bit.
The apostles were Jewish as well.. so no inconsistencies there..lets not let this dissolve into a typical debate on transubstantiation shall we.
Not sure they’d even be wanted? Perhaps you’ll clarify: by whom?
You guess? You aren't sure? Peter, along with the other Apostles spread the Gospel of Jesus. Jesus built the church on Himself, NOT a sinful, flawed human being!
Stop being argumentative. I amended my answer and you’re still not happy. What’s the problem, mama?
I’m catholic also. Christ said “do this in remembrance of me”. He didn’t say “do this in remembrance of the Catholic church”. He didn’t say “do this unless you have ever committed a sin”. He didn’t say “do this unless you are divorced and remarried”. Every true believer should be allowed Communion.
No. The Mass contradicts the New Testament.
The key point of contention in this argument is that the Catholic Church believes in the Real Presence of the Eucharist. We believe that at the moment of consecration the bread and wine are mystically turned into the ACTUAL Body and Blood of Jesus Christ.
Most Protestant churches believe that Communion is a symbolic act and that the items do not become the actual Body and Blood of Jesus. They do it because He says “do this in remembrance of Me” in the Gospels. But it does not mean the same thing as it does to Catholics.
This is a key point and an important difference. Most Protestants I know are very honest about this and admit that it’s a real difference of opinion, and a significant barrier to reunification.
While I’m no Mrs. Dono, I know a few things: Catholics believe that the Host is transformed into the body of Jesus Christ during the Sacrament of the Mass. And that means that every Catholic must go to Confession prior to it to receive this sacrament or they must be in the state of grace prior to it.
If you aren’t, then you must deny yourself, which is why I have not taken the Host in many years. I use Helen Hayes, the actress married to divorced Charlie MacArthur, as my example. Once her beloved and marvelous husband died, she re-communicated with the Church. She was only human as I am.
For the rest or you?. Educate yourself. Do not rely on the present Pope to help you. He will not.
This would be a two-step process: first Confession. Then Communion. Mo Hence the message of hope for everyone: Repent. And believe the Good News.
Bless you, miss marmelstein.
Ooh! Seriously, I’m blushing from praise from you.
As a catholic of 30 years I abide by the rules of the eucharist. I just disagree.
This is why the Mass is in contradiction of the New Testament.
John O' Brien, Roman Catholic Priest in the Faith of Millions. | Hebrews 9:24-28 | Hebrews 10:11-13 |
When the priest pronounces the tremendous words of consecration, he reaches up into the heavens, brings Christ down from His throne, and places Him upon our altar to be offered up again as the Victim for the sins of man. It is a power greater than that of monarchs and emperors: it is greater than that of saints and angels, greater than that of Seraphim and Cherubim. Indeed it is greater even than the power of the Virgin Mary. While the Blessed Virgin was the human agency by which Christ became incarnate a single time, the priest brings Christ down from heaven, and renders Him present on our altar as the eternal Victim for the sins of mannot once but a thousand times! The priest speaks and lo! Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God, bows His head in humble obedience to the priests command. | 24For Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own. 26Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment, 28so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him. |
Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; 12but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, 13waiting from that time onward UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE A FOOTSTOOL FOR HIS FEET. 14For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified. |
It's way more than that in Roman Catholicism.
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