[Mrs. Don-o]

I remain unconvinced that "full of grace" (Kecharitomene)can be construed as "sinful" or even as compatible with "Sinful".

I wouldn't say that these words alone, "Chaire Kecharitomene," are a sufficient "proof text" for the dogma of the Immaculate Conception. I would say, though, that this Angelic Salutation shows that such a dogma is compatible with what is revealed in Scripture.

As for Mary, her spirit rejoices in God her Savior.

[ealgeone]

You have eyes but cannot see is all I can say. I’ve tried to show you the truth on this. It’s all I can do.