I stand with John Piper, a giant.
What I never understand is why the Church always seems to want to conform to this world and why they constantly seek to closely contour pop culture.
Of course the church must be relevant, but I cannot tell you how many churches I have attended where there have been “jokes” about how women are superior to men, followed by the hizzahs from women and the nervous chuckles from men. Why? Why say such things to senselessly demoralize the patriarchy? Why? Because it follows popular culture and in my opinion that is wrong biblically and denies the natural ordering by God.
Women are in no manner inferior to men, as all are created in the image of God, but God has established a system set up for our own good, not to harm or to deny any.
John Piper is spot on.
“Of course the church must be relevant, but I cannot tell you how many churches I have attended where there have been “jokes” about how women are superior to men, followed by the hizzahs from women and the nervous chuckles from men. Why? Why say such things to senselessly demoralize the patriarchy? Why? Because it follows popular culture and in my opinion that is wrong biblically and denies the natural ordering by God.”
I attended one church where the minister said “If mamma is not happy, nobody is happy” and everyone laughed. Then went on and said in many cases it is the man’s fault. I think Crist’s take would be Mamma is not acting like a Christian and would call her out. Ministers are scared to criticize current culture IMHO.
Not if he disputes the following:
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 1 2But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. (1 Timother 2:11-15)
There it is: "I suffer not a woman to teach nor usurp authority over the man."
Some try to link the 1st part with the 2nd. Ok. Women can teach children, but not men, because that would violate this injunction.
What's more, woman should "learn in silence" and "be in silence." Silence. There is not a church where the din of women cannot be heard in the congregation. Many pastors will carve out exceptions, but I see none mentioned here in 1 Timothy 2.
People don't like what the Bible says on this topic. I stand with the Word of God. (This will not doubt stimulate a floor of OT Bible references. Before one submits, I would encourage him/her to first read Hebrews, specifically chapters 8,9,10 which addresses those aspects of the Law which are no longer in effect, since they have been fulfilled by Jesus Christ -- the "carnal" ordinances.)