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Crisis Magazine ^ | November 28, 2017 | Julia Meloni

Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

AMEN!


261 posted on 11/29/2017 7:08:28 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Iscool
No...There is no final judgment for Christians...We have been judged already as far as salvation goes...

Here's a little fact for you:

Both Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were baptized Christians.

262 posted on 11/29/2017 7:22:46 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Luircin
Don’t get all jealous just because we believe in the promises that the Lord made to us.

The promises of Jesus Christ had conditions.

It seems you feel free to ignore those conditions.

263 posted on 11/29/2017 7:27:16 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; metmom; Elsie

The promises of Jesus Christ had conditions.

It seems you feel free to ignore those conditions.

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Prove. It.

You have yet to address all the Scripture that mm and Iscool and I have posted to you.

We’ve addressed your challenges already, so come on. Put up or shut up.

St. Paul says that salvation is by faith, not works, so that no one can boast. How are you gonna reconcile that with your claims without calling St. Paul a liar?


264 posted on 11/29/2017 7:31:59 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Iscool

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265 posted on 11/29/2017 7:32:53 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide; metmom

And for that matter, how are you gonna reconcile the words of Jesus himself, such as what you have not replied to in post 251 by metmom?

We’ve already reconciled the bit from Matthew that you’ve posted by answering it with what St. Paul says about the interaction of works and faith; that works are proof of faith. This is also why works are judged, because they are the proof of salvation, not the cause.

As, you know, St. Paul wrote.

You haven’t shown these ‘conditions’ that you speak of, especially in regards to eternal salvation.

Show your work!


266 posted on 11/29/2017 7:38:50 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin
St. Paul says that salvation is by faith, not works, so that no one can boast.

No. Only the heretic Martin Luther, and his fellow travelers state that; and Luther's no saint.

267 posted on 11/29/2017 7:39:48 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; Iscool

No. Only the heretic Martin Luther, and his fellow travelers state that; and Luther’s no saint.

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LOL!

Pathetic!

Let me quote that directly for you FROM the writing of St. Paul, which your own church says is divinely inspired:

Ephesians chapter 2: v. 1-10:

“1As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh[a] and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.”

So you’re either a complete liar or you’re utterly ignorant of what St. Paul actually wrote.

Whatever the case, that’s a hilariously incorrect statement, especially since Iscool and I posted St. Paul’s statement to you twice in this thread already.

So which is it, liar or illiterate?


268 posted on 11/29/2017 7:47:23 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide
Here's a little fact for you:
Both Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were baptized Christians.

And here's a fact for you...You don't become a Christian by getting wet...You become a Christian by trusting in Jesus Christ to be your Savior...

The people that convinced you that the church epistles of Paul aren't for the Catholic religion are the same people who got you to believe that getting wet equals becoming a member of the Body of Christ...Your current pope even says you don't have to believe in Jesus...But you must get wet...By a Catholic priest...

269 posted on 11/29/2017 7:50:07 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Luircin
I don't respond to, and sometimes don't even read, every post that heretics post to me, especially the book-length technicolor rants.

It would be way to time consuming and a waste of valuable time to pray a rosary or a novena.

However, I'm glad to see that y'all are interested in my posts.

270 posted on 11/29/2017 7:51:03 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

So you’re admitting that you refuse to read the Bible?


271 posted on 11/29/2017 7:52:17 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide
By the way: Imma steal your thunder!

Consider my feet shaken; I stick around only to see how big of a fool you make of yourself trying to answer St. Paul's and Jesus's own words.

272 posted on 11/29/2017 7:53:02 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide; metmom; boatbums; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; Iscool

“I don’t respond to, and sometimes don’t even read, every post that heretics post to me, especially the book-length technicolor rants.

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So ebb tide just called Jesus and St. Paul and St. John heretics.

Nice to know whose side he’s on.

LOL.


273 posted on 11/29/2017 7:58:16 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin
So which is it, liar or illiterate?

Luther was a liar, but obviously not an illiterate.

274 posted on 11/29/2017 8:00:43 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

So which are you? Liar or illiterate?

I proved you absolutely wrong with St. Paul’s own words.

Were you just ignorant of the Bible—and why should we listen to you if you are THAT ignorant—or were you lying?


275 posted on 11/29/2017 8:02:44 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin

Wow!

You sure didn’t shake the dust off your sandals for very long.

Mighty disciplined of you.


276 posted on 11/29/2017 8:02:56 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; Luircin
St. Paul says that salvation is by faith, not works, so that no one can boast.

No. Only the heretic Martin Luther, and his fellow travelers state that; and Luther's no saint.

No??? You have been shown the simple, plain scripture numerous times...So, what, are you just plain stupid??? You're a real piece of work...

277 posted on 11/29/2017 8:05:46 PM PST by Iscool
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To: ebb tide

Oh no no. As I said in the post, if you care to read, I’m just sticking around to laugh at you.

Because let me tell you, it was utterly hilarious when you called Jesus a heretic.


278 posted on 11/29/2017 8:06:03 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin
So ebb tide just called Jesus and St. Paul and St. John heretics.

Why don't you first let me know when Jesus Christ and Sts. John and Paul start posting on FR?

279 posted on 11/29/2017 8:06:44 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Iscool

You have been shown the simple, plain scripture numerous times...So, what, are you just plain stupid??? You’re a real piece of work...

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Well, to be fair, the dude said that he refused to read Scripture.

So really it’s just him putting his hands on his ears and screaming he can’t hear us.

Which is kind of sad, really, considering that kind of hatred of the Word of God (not to mention hatred of other people) is kind of one of those mortal sins that condemns to eternal damnation according to Catholicism.


280 posted on 11/29/2017 8:09:28 PM PST by Luircin
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