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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^ | November 28, 2017 | Julia Meloni

Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: Luircin

Clearly this guy doesn’t own a bible...He has no clue what Jesus taught...


281 posted on 11/29/2017 8:09:29 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Luircin
Because let me tell you, it was utterly hilarious when you called Jesus a heretic.

That calumny is ironic, coming from someone who twice insinuated I was a "liar" with no evidence.

282 posted on 11/29/2017 8:11:16 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Hey, we gave you many pages of direct quotes from those three notables, or ‘rants’ as you called them.

You said they were from heretics.

So yes. It’s quite accurate to say that you called St. Paul, St. John, and Jesus heretics.

Which is really, REALLY funny.

Next up, I’m gonna see if I can’t get you to call the Virgin Mary a heretic by posting some quotes from her.


283 posted on 11/29/2017 8:11:44 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide
That calumny is ironic, coming from someone who twice insinuated I was a "liar" with no evidence.

Of course there's evidence...We posted what the apostle Paul wrote and you said no he didn't write that...

285 posted on 11/29/2017 8:15:16 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Luircin
Well, to be fair, the dude said that he refused to read Scripture.

Prove it. I've been quoting the Bible right and left.

Your false accusations are indicative of your lack of "faith".

286 posted on 11/29/2017 8:15:49 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Iscool
We posted what the apostle Paul wrote and you said no he didn't write that...

Please indicate the post where I stated such a thing.

Put up or shut-up.

287 posted on 11/29/2017 8:18:39 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Prove it. I’ve been quoting the Bible right and left.

***

Okay!

St. Paul: “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.”

ebb tide: “No. Only the heretic Martin Luther, and his fellow travelers state that; and Luther’s no saint. “

So are you a liar or Biblically illiterate?


288 posted on 11/29/2017 8:19:01 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide

Please indicate the post where I stated such a thing.

Put up or shut-up.

***

I’ll put up!

St. Paul: “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.”

ebb tide: “No. Only the heretic Martin Luther, and his fellow travelers state that; and Luther’s no saint. “

Boom.


289 posted on 11/29/2017 8:19:43 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin; metmom; Iscool
[14] What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him? James Chapter 2.

Did Luther cherry-pick the above out your "bible"?

290 posted on 11/29/2017 8:29:15 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

You said that St. Paul NEVER said those words.

I proved you wrong.

Are you a liar or just Biblically illiterate?


291 posted on 11/29/2017 8:31:38 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide; metmom; Iscool

We already answered your crazed screaming.

You haven’t answered ours.

Put up or shut up, ebb. Address what St. Paul wrote. Address what Jesus himself said.

Or admit that you have no idea what you’re talking about.


292 posted on 11/29/2017 8:35:11 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Elsie
That first line needs a little work.

LOL. How about creed instead of screed? 😀😆😁

293 posted on 11/29/2017 9:30:17 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

Cut out the ‘very’ IMHO.

And while you’re at it, there was some very amusing drama tonight upthread.

Good for a couple of yuks on my end at least.

Anyways, good morning to you, goodnight for me!


294 posted on 11/29/2017 9:32:47 PM PST by Luircin
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To: metmom

That’s some very strained word parsing you have going on. “Valid” versus “true” — really? All that stuff that Jesus did which John didn’t write down in his Gospel: is it somehow not both “valid” and “true” because it’s not written in there? If you think it changes anything, I’ll add one more idea to what I said before: Something doesn’t have to be in the Bible to be Truth.


295 posted on 11/29/2017 9:38:06 PM PST by Mmmike
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

How do these verses fall short of establishing that? They tell us that not everything about God has been written down.


296 posted on 11/29/2017 9:41:04 PM PST by Mmmike
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To: Luircin
So ebb tide just called Jesus and St. Paul and St. John heretics. Nice to know whose side he’s on.

I sometimes think even if Jesus, Paul and John were to repeat the words they said/wrote for a few here they would accuse THEM of being heretics,too!

Little story that happened to me some many years ago. I was sitting with family and a Catholic priest at breakfast and we started talking about favorite Bible verses. I said mine was Ephesians 2:8,9 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast. The priest looked at me and said, "That sounds Protestant to me." True story!

297 posted on 11/29/2017 10:06:47 PM PST by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: ebb tide
[14] What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him? James Chapter 2.

Did Luther cherry-pick the above out your "bible"?

No, but unlike you and your religion, he didn't get twisted in a knot over a couple of scriptures and ignore the rest of them...Like I told you, if you can't reconcile those verses with the epistles written to the church (Eph. 2:8,9) you've got no business quoting scripture to anyone...

And the fact that you ignore and DENY scriptures from the church epistles shows your dishonesty...

298 posted on 11/29/2017 10:30:23 PM PST by Iscool
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
It is done. “Thanks be to God for His Indescribable Gift!”

Correct me if I am wrong bro, but it looks like you have assurance of salvation. Praise God, so do I. It must frustrate those who have no assurance at all. They have my deepest sympathy, but that’s on them. 😀😆😁

299 posted on 11/30/2017 1:21:15 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Luircin
You can believe them too if you like; it’s a free offer from Jesus and sealed with his own death and resurrection.

Trying to tell someone, who is working his way to Heaven, about the free offer from Jesus, is an exercise in futility. Kudos to you for trying.
It seems to me, that a total and complete lack of any spiritual discernment whatsoever, and human pride, are a hideous combination, pretty much guaranteed to put the “worker” deep into the lake that burns forever. As they bake day and night, they cannot blame you for their deep misery. 🔥

300 posted on 11/30/2017 1:39:58 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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