Posted on 11/27/2017 8:37:19 AM PST by Salvation
Well my wife reads my mind all the time, ok I'll stop.
ampu IS home. He is right now seated in heaven with Chrsist Jesus.So you really think that passage means that ampu is seated up in heaven with Jesus RIGHT NOW and typing messages to me on a computer?Ephesians 2:4-7 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
I didn't think they had WiFi up there.
Yes I do because Scripture tells us so.
And I’m right there with him.
“So you really think that passage means that ampu is seated up in heaven with Jesus RIGHT NOW”
Positionally, yes. My physical body is on earth. At my death, what has always been positionally true will be my only reality.
“ and typing messages to me on a computer?
Unfortunately, the typing is from earth.
The spiritual realm is surrounding us and permeating us as it is not composed of physical substance. There is activity in it all around us that we cannot see, hear, feel with our natural senses, although sometimes the Holy Spirit enlightens us and makes us aware of it.
And so, yes, when we become born again, saved if you will, we are saved NOW. when that happens, there is action in the spiritual realm of us being transferred from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of the Son God loves.
Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness(past tense) and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, (past tense) in whom we have (present tense) redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
I respect the Authority of the Fathers, Doctors and Saints of the One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ Jesus. What are your credentials that I should consider your grave misinterpretations with any weight whatsoever?
I posted Scripture.
It says what it says.
I didn’t *interpret* it to mean something other than what it really says.
How does that qualify as a *grave misinterpretation*?
Fine. You respect them.
Give me a reason why anyone who TRUST them.
What makes them better than anyone else?
I live way too close to FermiLab to deny the unseen realm but for everything else I think you are making an order of operations error. The way I understand it, if there is a just God then judgement comes to each of us after death and we will be all be called to account for our actions and our in-actions. I beg the God of All Creation for Mercy especially for myself and everyone of His beloved creatures so that we may not suffer eternal separation from what is All Good.
“The way I understand it, if there is a just God then judgement comes to each of us after death
My judgement for all my sin and sins was paid in full, by Christ, on the cross.
It is finished.
By grace, He paid my sin and exchanged a His righteousness to me.
It is indeed, “an indescribable a Gift!”
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>> “By grace, He paid my sin and exchanged a His righteousness to me.” <<
That what the doctrine of inherited lies says, but it is not what the word of Yehova says.
The word says that the grace of Yehova allowes you to confess sins and be saved through your continuing obedience to his commandments in Faith.
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I have to turn in for the evening but we can continue in the morning.
Dear God
Watch over us and all FReepers this evening especially those struggling with medical / health challenges.
When I was growing up, we lived in a small rural town. My dad knew just about everyone who lived in the town and county. It helped being related to many and those we were not related to were related to our relatives. We were invited to many different churches. Some were Assembly of God, Baptist, Church of God, Church of God of Prophecy, Methodist. Independent, etc. I carried my Bible with me from the time I learned to read so I was able to follow along with what the minister was reading and discussing. They all taught directly from the Bible. Those churches were different but all believed in the Bible. That was the most important thing. I treasure my memories of attending those churches. I love genealogy and recently discovered some of my ancestors in 1600 America were among the first Jews in this country. I had no clue. The surname was Franks. We are more alike than some think.
Amen.
Yes He did, and He quoted it in context. The devil quoted it out of context. If people quote it out of context, they can get it to say anything. After all, Psalms 14:1b says “there is no God.” That’s out of context of course. We all know there is. 😂😇
I certainly did, when I was a Catholic. 😂😊 I prayed to Mary, so I was guilty of necromancy.
Same with the Philippines. Most of the people I meet, are Bereans by nature. They just want the truth. 😊🤣
Bereans?
Thanks for the uplifting recollections!
I think that the differences between our church bodies are important and need to be hashed out with Scripture having the final say, or at least discussed vigorously. The harder we strive for capital-T Truth, the more we generally resist error and folly.
Provided that we remember who, or Who, I should say, is our Head. He who is the source of all salvation.
Earlier today I encountered one of them who was getting REALLY angry because we were ‘blaspheming the Mother of God.’
And I really wish that I’d taken the time to point out that meant classifying her as a goddess. And is by definition idolatry.
Oh well, if I run across that thread again, I’ll certainly point it out.
I have known a few. I don’t know for sure, but maybe some of them saw married Christian pastors, who have successful ministries, and maybe they figured they could too. Who knows?
That’s the main reason I never had any desire to be a priest, even though my dad wanted me to be one. I wanted female companionship in my life, so it never appealed to me.
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