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To: Hieronymus

I was under the impression that Catholic theology is that Jesus is re-sacrificed in Heaven every time the Mass happens. But maybe I was misinformed? Sometimes it’s difficult to get clear answers, even with a Catholic catechism available to refer to.

If you mean that the Eucharist is participating in Jesus’s one-time sacrifice, and that Jesus’ body and blood are really present, then Catholics have that much in common with Lutherans too.


81 posted on 11/19/2017 9:56:22 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin

You were misinformed.

Catholics believe Jesus died once for all. The Mass is participation in and remembrance of that sacrifice as Jesus commanded. Jesus is present body, blood, soul, and divinity in the transfigured bread and wine after the consecration.

The belief that Jesus is really present is part of the Catholic faith that survived the reformation for the Lutherans.

Love,
O2


84 posted on 11/20/2017 12:13:14 AM PST by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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To: Luircin

I was under the impression that Catholic theology is that Jesus is re-sacrificed in Heaven every time the Mass happens. But maybe I was misinformed? Sometimes it’s difficult to get clear answers, even with a Catholic catechism available to refer to.

If you mean that the Eucharist is participating in Jesus’s one-time sacrifice, and that Jesus’ body and blood are really present, then Catholics have that much in common with Lutherans too.


I did a bit of research—when St. Thomas Aquinas puts forward the argument, he is largely following Sts. Ambrose and Augustine—I’m glad to hear that the Lutherans haven’t jettisoned this part of the tradition. My dad is a very lapsed Lutheran—I’m Norwegian on that side—and I understand perfectly that getting answers to what is believed is often difficult.

Pius XII articulates the position in detail and at length in the encyclical Mediator Dei in 1947, but the position is the same as Ambrose’’s—and no doubt, Ambrose was merely passing on an older tradition.

Glad to see some civility on a religion thread.


102 posted on 11/20/2017 6:44:18 PM PST by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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