Posted on 10/25/2017 5:54:54 PM PDT by marshmallow
Troof.
But the discontinuity between jeans and lace is charming to me.
not sure I am following you.
women who live alone are exempted in scripture from covering their heads when praying or prophesying?
Bubushkas! :-)
When a woman lives alone, with no husband, does she still have a head?
The details of religious head coverings vary by custom, culture and century: but they tend to resemble each other in any shared milieu, where Orthodox Christians, Orthodox Jews, and Muslimas share the same street and do eye and buy the same styles.
“but it’s not obvious from the style of headcovering, only if you google that image and get its original appearance on the net.”
I’m not trying to argue with you on this, but the facts are:
1) modern Jewish women do not worry about covering the forehead or neck. They only worry about covering most or all of their hair.
2) Most Eastern Orthodox women will use handkerchiefs/veils to cover most of the head (generally not all of their hair which might be in a pony tail or braids or just hanging out the back opening of their head covering. The Russians sometimes use a head covering that also covers the neck like a hijab. That probably developed due to the need to stay warm more than anything else. https://theorthodoxlife.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/headcovering21.jpg Otherwise: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/350506783471368410
The Muslim woman’s photo you posted makes it obvious it was a Muslim:
It’s a hijab.
It’s multiple pieces.
It’s multiple pieces used to cover all of the hair and head and all of the neck.
Take the quiz. It’s easy. The only tricky questions are those when the woman in question is living in a culture dominated by another group that has forced or allowed her to dress differently: http://www.judaism-islam.com/quiz-can-you-tell-her-religion-from-her-head-covering/
A local treasure here in Maryland.
In my mom’s day women wore head coverings to Catholic mass, too.
My experience is not extensive.
However, although I've always been a Catholic and still am (praise God for His mercy to me, a sinner and scamp), for about 10 years I used to be a fellow-traveler with an Orthodox parish in Western North Carolina. You can imagine how rare the Orthodox are in them parts: 'bout as exotic as the Jews.
The one Orthodox church in the multi-county area attracted communicants from the Syrian, Egyptian, Greek, Russian, Serbian, Georgian, and other communities --- just a few from each. Plus "white bread" Antiochian converts from Baptist and Episcopalian nackgrounds with surnames like "O'Donnell".
I noticed that they all wore different styles of veils: mantillas, shawls, chapel veils, simple hijab or Lucille-Ball-playing-housewife type scarves, and few turban types too, covering part of the hair, all the hair, the hair and neck, the whole bust and head, or maybe just the tippity-top of their dreads (yeah, mon).
Some got their gear from mail-order houses, some made their own, some got 'em from their last matushka or khouria, and a few went to an outfitter in Asheville that catered mostly to UNC Muslimas and Heredi Jews. Oy to the woild.
Go figure!
The "I Love Lucy" head covering. A "chastity" signal. But not to Ricky!
“Laugh” is not the correct word.
POSITIVELY MAJESTIC! And a worthy display of proper piety due our Lord God Almighty.
How far the West has fallen. I personally know of protestant churches for years now, with “cafes”, big screen TVs, gyms. Donuts before and after church. Concerts replace singing the PSALMS, drums and bongos, and plenty of rousing Southern Gospel. The people love it, arriving themselves in shorts and deck shoes in the summer time, comforts and entertainment appreciated.
Don’t get me started on the Western version of the Catholic
Church. Outside of the TLM, there is less and less difference with the Catholic Churches and any other Sunday hub bub. Catholic identity was lost after V2. Sounds like a band, doesn’t it?
But, the head covering conversation ignores the hundreds of years prior to V2, when women and communities revered modesty and modest dress. The hair of women was historically thought a point of beauty and pride and admiration. This timeless truth is so forgotten, even unrealized today.
Now, bare heads are the least of the abuses unfitting for worship. Cleavage is in, shorts, or dresses just as short, and 5 inch high heeled shoes might parade forward to receive our Lord in communion.
If it’s true that it really is “the hand that rocks the cradle, rules the world”, then women need to redeem the piety of the centuries, behave themselves and dress themselves quite differently in their churches than they might in the bar on Saturday night. To heck with Hollywood leading the women’s fashion industry. Christian women and men are to be a peculiar people. That means being seen as being peculiar.
an unmarried woman living alone, governmentally. has her dad as her head.
but that is not what society practices today.
which is what part of the curse in the garden is about.
It probably is too sensitive a topic for too much detail, but His Government seems to have a chain of command of Headship that goes:
Father
Son
Man
Woman
With the Father covering the Son
The Son covering the Man
The Man covering the Woman
And if one drilled into that deeper,
The Glory of the Father is His Son
The Glory of the Son is man
The Glory of the man is the woman
The Glory of the woman is her long hair
Each level is a ‘covering’/headship and authority for the one below the other.
Father is the Headship/authority of Christ
Christ is the Headship/authority of man
Man is the Headship/authority of woman
Her long hair is the Headship/authority of ????
Well, the pattern falls apart with woman because her hair isn’t her ‘headship’.
But that is why Paul notes a woman needs a covering for her head.
That head covering is a sign of authority 1 Cor 11:10-
And it is a sign that she is under the authority of her ‘head’ (which is man) and not her hair (which is her glory but isn’t her head)
It may be why Paul mentioned a woman being shaved, too.
a woman without her hair has lost her ‘glory’.
a woman without her ‘head’ has lost her authority.
one of the curses in the garden was for the woman to desire her man’s positon.
shedding that headship of man may be described as a blessing this day, but biblically, that’s a curse.
some woman shave their heads, or at least cut their hair to look like man.
that may be described as a blessing this day, but biblically, that’s a curse.
And it brings to mind the verse. none does good. not one.
Some,maybe most who wear headscarves probably don’t understand the full implication of their actions- heck, they may wear the headscarf as ‘tradition’ and still desire to rule.
Sort of like a Hillary Clinton in a foreign country wearing a head scarf, comes to mind.
What she’s doing is biblically accurate, but it isn’t from any scriptural foundation.
His People can know that there is a foundation for why His Word talks about hair and coverings, dress. Some may call it old fashioned or outdated, but there truly is spiritual meaning to heads and hair and beards and our bodies, even in this sinful flesh.
For His Glory!
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