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To: metmom

I think the general point here is that Church practice includes granting indulgences (without cost). Abuses happened (indulgences for sale) and the Council of Trent is condemning those abuses.


137 posted on 10/15/2017 6:52:48 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: piusv; vladimir998; metmom
I think the general point here is that Church practice includes granting indulgences (without cost). Abuses happened (indulgences for sale) and the Council of Trent is condemning those abuses.

uh-o....vlad's gonna accuse you of being a "drone". You've admitted what we've been saying all along and what history shows.

LOL! Winning.

148 posted on 10/15/2017 10:26:52 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: piusv; metmom
I think the general point here is that Church practice includes granting indulgences (without cost). Abuses happened (indulgences for sale) and the Council of Trent is condemning those abuses.

Yet indulgences are still granted in exchange for many things (i.e., prayers, pilgrimages, doing good deeds, Mass, etc.) as well as alms giving or monetary donations. The whole concept of it was ripe for abuses from the start and numerous popes, bishops and other clergy - though some tried to prevent the abuses - during the time of the Reformation permitted it to go on because of the need for massive funds to build the Basilica in Rome as well as fill the Pope's coffers - Leo X's gambling debts in particular. It's unfathomable to me how a Catholic today can vehemently insist there was NEVER approval for the selling of indulgences when so much evidence proves the opposite.

177 posted on 10/15/2017 6:48:12 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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