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To: Zionist Conspirator; piusv
And every time it happened was because the Jews strayed from the Torah.

The problem isn't that we stray from following God's law. As Moses pointed out, we DON'T want to keep God's law. "Straying" from it is just simply an excuse.

I'm reminded of the incident in Jeremiah:

Poor Jeremiah, after he told the people not to go down to Egypt, not only did they run off to Egypt but forced Jeremiah to go along. Finally the Jews ended up killing him.

It isn't that the Jews have strayed from the Torah. They rebel against the word of God-just like everyone else. It is our sinful, rebellious nature that causes this. One cannot live by the law because our hearts are openly rebellious. And no matter how much one may think they are conforming to the Torah, they will never follow it completely.

A sacrifice has been paid to atone for this behavior through Christ His Messiah. But the Jews are still in open rebellion to God's solution just as they were with God's solution spoken through Jeremiah.

57 posted on 10/08/2017 4:30:27 AM PDT by HarleyD ("There are very few shades of grey."-Dr. Eckleburg)
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To: HarleyD
Chrstianity can't prove any of its claims. It merely asserts them . . . over and over and over and over again.

On the first Shavu`ot G-d spoke directly to perhaps some three million people. This had never happened before and has never happened since. Until it does, this is the supreme revelation that judges all others. The Prophets must be interpreted in light of the Torah. Any interpretation of the Prophets that is contrary to Torah is a false interpretation. Period. But of course, try explaining this to a chrstian.

In the portion of the Torah called Ki-Tavo' (Deuteronomy 26:1-29:8) there is a very long section of the terrible consequences of deviating from the Torah. It also predicts the long exile of the Jews for that very reason. There is not a word about exile being a result of "rejecting the messiah." This is a foreign meaning forced into the text. Out of all the 613 commandments of the Torah, there is no commandment to "accept the messiah," because when he comes it will be obvious to all. And there's no negative commandment against "killing G-d" for the simple reason that G-d can't be killed (but again, try telling that to a chrstian).

I am quite aware that none of this will make it into your head, but it is quite frustrating to see the dishonestly of chrstians who insist that the Jews are being punished for keeping the Torah (instead of abandoning it for chrstianity) when the Torah itself says the exact opposite.

58 posted on 10/08/2017 6:10:47 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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