[Campion]

Sure, when you strip it from its context.

You mean context turns "baptism, which saves you now" into "baptism, which doesn't save you now"? I don't think so ...

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Campion, I composed a very long response to your argument, involving hermeneutic principles, Bible study, etc. Then I realized it would likely be wasted, based on your belief in your argument. It would benefit you greatly to have some formal training in both areas, but you would have to be motivated internally to pursue it. Instead, there is a better way to deal with your argument. You argued that the context is only the verse itself, so whatever it says without any other context (other surrounding verses, chapters, thought divisions in the book itself and the over-arching theme of the book, and the comparison to other verses about the same topic). You wrote, "You try to persuade that context turns "baptism, which saves you now" into "baptism, which doesn't save you now"? I don't think so ..." Yes it does. Here is another verse. Please use your same principle of context of the verse itself only and then go be obedient. “Take the underwear that you bought and are wearing, and go at once to the Euphrates and hide it in a rocky crevice.” Jeremiah 13:4

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Once more with spacing...

Campion, I composed a very long response to your argument, involving hermeneutic principles, Bible study, etc. Then I realized it would likely be wasted, based on your belief in your argument. It would benefit you greatly to have some formal training in both areas, but you would have to be motivated internally to pursue it.

You argued that the context is only the verse itself, so whatever it says without any other context (other surrounding verses, chapters, thought divisions in the book itself and the over-arching theme of the book, and the comparison to other verses about the same topic).

You wrote, "You try to persuade that context turns "baptism, which saves you now" into "baptism, which doesn't save you now"? I don't think so ..."

Yes it does.

Here is another verse.

Please use your same principle of context of the verse itself only and then go be obedient.

“Take the underwear that you bought and are wearing, and go at once to the Euphrates and hide it in a rocky crevice.” Jeremiah 13:4