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To: boatbums

I am capable of discussing my disagreements but that would take two or more reasonable individuals. I intended no insult I am merely pointing out ACs ability to perform mental gymnastics and weave pretzel logic.

It’s a complement.


352 posted on 08/06/2017 10:48:58 PM PDT by infool7 (The ugly Truth is just a big lie.)
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To: infool7
I am capable of discussing my disagreements but that would take two or more reasonable individuals. I intended no insult I am merely pointing out ACs ability to perform mental gymnastics and weave pretzel logic. It’s a complement.

You're still insulting whether you "intended" to or not. Again, what did you disagree with on my statement concerning the RC dogma of Mary's sinlessness? That the dogma itself is "mental gymnastics" and "pretzel logic", I will not disagree with you.

354 posted on 08/06/2017 10:59:46 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: infool7; boatbums

The pretzel logic and mental gymnastics are coming from those who claim that someone who is sinless had a Savior to keep them from the sin they never committed.

And that pre-forgiven means that it keeps the person from sinning in the first place.

If there’s no sin, there’s no forgiveness and no grace.

Forgiveness and grace only kick in in the presence of sin.

Admitting Mary had sinned and was not sinless makes a whole lot of Scripture make sense, like how she could, by her own admission have a Savior, and how she could be graced by God.

BTW, since God was able to (allegedly) keep her from sin, then why doesn’t He do that for everyone who is a believer and save the world a lot of grief? It can’t be that hard, or too hard for Him, since He’s God.


356 posted on 08/06/2017 11:07:08 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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