and this time, I'm pinging multiple others.
You were wrong then, and you're still wrong now, even if having backed off ever so slightly from having previously claimed;
Underlining added for emphasis for the ever ---which as it turns out, was most certainly not the case, save for gender of addressee ~only~
The term, the "neologism" had been used previous to whoever it was -- most likely the one known to us as Luke -- used the term in Luke 2 who quite possibly borrowed the term from Sirach chapter 18, verse 17, here also in side-by-side Greek, and English translation.
It is highly doubtful that an angel appearing to Mary announcing that she would give birth to Messiah of Israel would have been speaking Greek to her, leaving Luke needing find some way to express what had been conveyed in Hebrew, or Aramaic, into Greek. Yet, Luke did not need wholly invent a term, there being one in existence within Greek Septuagint.
Question: If the term conveys "sinlessness" to Mary, how would that same term addressed to a man not convey sense of sinlessness to a man to whom the same phrase was addressed? Just because there was no angel speaking Greek? lol
Woops. Don't look now Mrs. Don-o, but I just crashed ye olde Marianist claptrap hard-drive. Attempts to Reboot in near future will be re-booted [stomp-stomp] -- you could beat thine sweet bippy on that!
As I had made mention of in #111 on that other thread, prior to there having been any English translation known of, the term as used in Sirach had been translated homine iustificato in Latin Vulgate. As shown at the link, following Latin Vulgate the Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA) translates the phrase as "a justified man".
What's up with that?
The "kecharito" formation is used as an example of what would be done by a "just" man: it's pointing out the behavior of the ideal man. Note that it is not used as a name or form of address. It
The unique, unparalleled thing with the Kecharitomene is that she is called this --- the just one, or the gracious or grace-filled one --- as a form of address, by God's messenger.
Peace, BlueDragon.
For some reason I didn’t read your ping to me in the prior thread on this topic....I should have as that was an excellent write up and repudiation of what is claimed by Roman Catholicism.