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To: Arthur McGowan
Arthur McGowan: First, you need to determine whether Paul was discussing Maryb or answering any questions about Mary, or trying to settle a dispute about Mary.

No, Arthur McGowan, to get to the heart of the issue, I am trying to point your mind in the direction of scripture passages which answer the issue of Mary's sinlessness throughout life. Mary was a human being. We are looking at the truth about human nature of human beings. As such we can apply what we find to be true to the person of Mary, since nowhere in the Word of God is Mary identified as your religion claims for her, which is that she was born without sin and remained sinless her whole life.

Since I disagree with the Catholic presmise, I am seeking to show you why I disagree. To do that there needs be a common ground of accepted truth to which we may turn.

88 posted on 07/31/2017 8:09:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Look —— Mary was ***ONLY*** without Sin because God forgave her in advance of her Sin(s) because of His Omniscientioueness???(sp)


90 posted on 07/31/2017 8:13:09 PM PDT by WrightWings (Remember, Remember, the Fifth of November...)
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To: MHGinTN

What I’m saying is that Scripture passages that say “all have sinned” or the “all are born under the Law,” do not constitute a refutation of the Immaculate Conception and the sinlessness of Mary, precisely because the authors were not thinking about Mary at all. They were addressing audiences who WERE sinners—100% of them. They were instructing those audiences about THEIR sinful condition, not about theological issues regarding Mary.


96 posted on 07/31/2017 8:27:49 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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