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The passage, however, doesn't say those who have come to faith and sin, will lose their place in the kingdom.

Paul does not exempt those who have faith from the immoral, impure or greedy who have no inheritance in the kingdom of God.

These words were addressed to believers who were saved to tell them the seriousness of living a holy life.

Not just to tell them the seriousness of living a holy life but to warn them that they will not inherit the kingdom of God if they return to their former unrighteousness.

Paul had already said that all believers have an inheritance in Christ (Ephesians 1:3–14).

Paul also warned them in Ephesians that: "no immoral or impure or greedy person, that is, an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God." (Ephesians 5:5) Faith without a conversion of life is useless. Or as James proclaims: "faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead." (James 2:17)

To claim a truly saved person cannot and will not practice these vices or would lose salvation overlook the fact that some genuine believers - sadly - live carnal lives (cf. 1 Cor. 3:1–4).

If a person falls back into a carnal life without latter repentance then, as Paul states, he will not inherit the kingdom of God. Paul gives no exemption for those who have faith.

439 posted on 07/19/2017 1:02:43 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

I understand.

It isn’t the words that are said that lead you to believe this. It is the blindness to the structure and context of the book itself.

“Paul does not exempt those who have faith from the immoral, impure or greedy who have no inheritance in the kingdom of God.”

Nor does he have to do so, in order for them to read the totality of the contrast between believers and unbelievers.

“Paul also warned them in Ephesians that: “no immoral or impure or greedy person, that is, an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.” (Ephesians 5:5)”

Yes he does. The unrighteous will have no inheritance in the millennial kingdom.

“Faith without a conversion of life is useless. Or as James proclaims: “faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.” (James 2:17)”

Which we agree upon in this context. Saving faith is followed by the life of Christ expressed in the believer. Works do not lead to salvation.

“If a person falls back into a carnal life without latter repentance then, as Paul states, he will not inherit the kingdom of God. Paul gives no exemption for those who have faith.”

Paul never says this. In fact, upthread I quoted his exact words about this type of person, “he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved.”

best.


444 posted on 07/19/2017 1:29:28 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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