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"Catholics Will Have to Decide Whether They Guard the Faith Over Papolatry"
Gloria TV ^ | July 17, 2017 | Gloria TV

Posted on 07/17/2017 8:08:32 AM PDT by ebb tide

“Francis is more interested in leftwing politics than in Catholic theology”, George Neumayr, contributing editor of The American Spectator, states talking to Tom Woods on July 14th on tomwoods.com. Woods describes Francis as a result of John Paul II who - as he puts it - appointed "absolutely terrible people" as bishops: "Catholics have suffered under Bergoglios for decades now”.

Neumayr agrees that a lot of the liberal bishops were appointed by John Paul II and Benedict XVI. He sees Francis as the “culmination of a century” of liberalism and modernism in the Church.

For him it is "highly unlikely" that Francis, who in his theology is “more a Protestant than a Catholic” will convert to Catholicism. Instead, the realistic scenario is that Francis will produce division and chaos, "Catholics will have to decide whether they guard the faith over papolatry.”

And: “The Cardinals have to declare that Francis is a bad pope who must be resisted.”


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To anyone with honest questions WRT what Michel Rood believes and teaches:

Marine to Hebrew Roots Teacher

What is God's Real Name?

The Rise of YHVH in Asia

Rapture 2017?

ARoodAwakening

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1,141 posted on 07/28/2017 3:30:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Blah blah blah.

We weren’t the ones who invoked the devil to accuse other Freepers.

We weren’t the ones who broke the forum rules either.

If you’re so ‘obviously’ correct, it should be simple to educate us rubes. But it seems that you have not; in point of fact, when you’ve made a statement, you typically get disproven from Scripture within minutes.

Do you believe in the authority of the Word of God? Yes, no, maybe? If yes, what’s your response to the fact that Scripture contradicts Rood and you? You know, something other than calling people dum-dum heads. If no, what IS authoritative, and why don’t you just say so?


1,142 posted on 07/28/2017 3:32:45 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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The cultist asked the questions.

Let the cultist answer them.

Misposed questions cannot be answered in any meaningful way, since they falsely accuse.
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1,143 posted on 07/28/2017 3:33:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Luircin

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>> “We weren’t the ones who invoked the devil to accuse other Freepers.” <<

Nonsense, that is precisely what you did!
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1,144 posted on 07/28/2017 3:35:47 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Luircin

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To my knowledge, nothing I have ever posted to this forum has ever been refuted or disproven.

Many post their gross misunderstanding of plain scripture in an attempt to do so, but no cigar.

You can try any time if you like, but judging by your recent posts, I am confident that you will fail.
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1,145 posted on 07/28/2017 3:40:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

E-S,

You SAID you already answered them.

WHERE?

My guess is that you never answered them, or you could point to the answers with a specific link.

I’ve found that people who follow false teachers - like Rood - don’t wish to discuss things that reveal they are in a cult.

I do not see how anyone can take your posts seriously, since you refuse to answer the most basic questions.

Here are the questions you need to answer:

Do you affirm or not:

->that Jesus Christ was a perfect man but not human and divine?

-> that the Holy Spirit is not a personal being?

-> that the filling of the Holy Spirit just amounts to people regaining their own spirit which was lost at the Fall?

-> that many verses of the Bible are untrustworthy because they were altered hundreds of years after they were written?

Here are my answers:

Jesus Christ was both human and divine.
The Holy Spirit is GOD and a personal being.
The filling of the spirit has nothing to do with regaining a human spirit.
The verses in the Bible - all of them in 66 books are inspired and reliable.

[time elapsed: 20 seconds]

So easy a Christian caveman can do it.

How about a follower of a #fakerabbi???


1,146 posted on 07/28/2017 3:47:10 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: editor-surveyor
To my knowledge, nothing I have ever posted to this forum has ever been refuted or disproven.


1,147 posted on 07/28/2017 3:48:22 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: editor-surveyor

Did I?

YOU were the one who brought up ‘satanic’ and used the word to accuse other Freepers.

Projection much?


1,148 posted on 07/28/2017 3:49:48 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

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Iused the word to describe obvious satanic content of a specific post; not to describe any poster.

The poster clearly had copied the content from one of Satan’s websites.
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1,149 posted on 07/28/2017 3:53:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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For one such as yourself who has posted little that has not been soundly refuted, you are out on a limb there!
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1,150 posted on 07/28/2017 3:55:02 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
e-s, you are so funny! Thank you!

Now, where is the link to your answers that you said you already made??

1,151 posted on 07/28/2017 3:59:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: editor-surveyor
To anyone with honest questions WRT what Michel Rood believes and teaches:

OR, if you want just link, just click here:

A Rood Awakening - what we are

1,152 posted on 07/28/2017 4:01:12 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: editor-surveyor; boatbums; metmom; Elsie; Mark17; MHGinTN

1,153 posted on 07/28/2017 4:06:43 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; boatbums; metmom; Elsie; Mark17; MHGinTN

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He has always led the charge to rid the landscape of the absurd term “Rabbi.”

That is one of the chief reasons why the Jewabies hate him so intensely.

He demolished their every toy.

He demolished your false theology too, so I can understand your wild rage.
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1,154 posted on 07/28/2017 4:16:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

The poster clearly had copied the content from one of Satan’s websites.

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Haaaa ha ha ha ha.

Now that’s funny. Sad excuse for bad behavior.


1,155 posted on 07/28/2017 4:25:01 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: editor-surveyor

To my knowledge, nothing I have ever posted to this forum has ever been refuted or disproven.

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Post 1018 on this thread.

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1,156 posted on 07/28/2017 4:29:28 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: editor-surveyor
Michael Rood's WAY Days

 

By 1981, 29 year old Michael John Rood of "A Rood Awakening" had been in The Way International cult for nine years. 1 Today, at age 51 his current presentation of religious beliefs seem to be a reflection of The Way International theology and indoctrination practices plus. It would not be a surprise that he does employ that form of teaching because Michael Rood was in leadership as, at the very least, Limb Coordinator of The Way cult in Washington D.C.

Having joined The Way International in 1972 at the age of 20 and claiming to be a former Marine marksman in 1981, Michael Rood was introduced to a Way Twig meeting as "The Rev. Mr. Michael Rood," according to the October 13, 1981, Washington Post article called, Giving Thanks for Array of Blessings, 

"....The Rev. Mr. Michael Rood," The Way's Washington area director -- "limb coordinator" in Way parlance -- and the honored guest at this twig. A nine-year veteran of the Way, Rood, 29, still displays vestiges of his years as a Marine Corps sergeant... 

... he leans forward intently, elbows on the knees of his gray garbardine trousers, and announces the topic of his sermon. It is "The Word of God is the Will of God," which also happens to be the group's motto...The Pharisees, he says, were "jerks."

"You can't trust anyone these days," he says in his flat, twangy Grand Rapids, Mich., voice. "You can only trust God and his word."

"All the negatives, fears, questions about life, insecurity complexes -- all that goes" if you believe in The Way, Rood says. The members nod in vigorous assent. "The word of God is still the will of God and if that's the only thing you have to believe, it's pretty simple..." 3 

Being Limb coordinator of Washington D.C is not to be taken lightly. In order for an individual to attain the leadership position of Limb, they would have to have totally embraced The Way International theology. They would have believed fully in the purposes and procedures and have proven themselves, resulting in being hand picked by the top Way leadership. Their obedience to that leadership had to be unquestionable because TWI was/is an authoritarian leadership. 

Update: In a letter to SeekGod.ca an attendee of the 2005 National Religious Broadcasters Convention (NRB) spoke with Michael Rood's associates including his wife Judith. When asked about being in The Way International, the following was noted:

Email: "...Michael Rood's wife, Judith, the same question. She told me that, yes, Michael had been a member of The Way, but that was just when he was 17."

That goes entirely against public record, and eye witness information. Michael Rood may have joined The Way International at the age of 17, but that also contradicts what he told a reporter in 1981.  For the complete letter please see: The 2005 National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) Convention With Focus On Michael Rood.

The lowest level of leadership in The Way is twig coordinator (home fellowship group), then a twig area coordinator (overseeing a few nearby twigs). Above that is Branch Coordinator, which is roughly a city-wide position, depending on local geography. The Limb leaders are generally over a state or two, depending on size of state and of TWI following in that area. Above that is president and cabinet, so readers must understand that being a Limb is high up and clearly a position of authority. 

The Greasespot Cafe is a web site for former and current Way people. In a discussion thread about the 7th Corps members, of which Michael Rood apparently was a graduate, Michael is remembered fondly by his fellow Way members. Being 7th Corps means he graduated Way College in 1979, with probable attendance approximately 1976 to 1979. According to John Juedes, "7 Corps graduated 279 in 1979. The Way College of Emporia opened in 1975, so odds are Michael spent a couple of years there." 4

The people in the 7th Corps discussion also posted Michael's current "in costume" pictures from his old 6001.com site, which is no longer his site as he lost the domain name. The same photos are found on his current site, michaelrood.com.

"June 11, 2002 "...Look. It's our Corps brother Mike Rood. (shows Rood's old link) I remember when he was hawking car buffing franchises in residence. Interesting site. I suppose we have all changed tremendously in the last 23 years in one way or another. Mike if you are reading this I mean it as a compliment, really, but when I saw this pic I was reminded of a ZZ Top concert I went to..."

 

June 13, 2002 "....that's quite a faxxintin' pic ya got of ole Rood...I mean....i think he was once in the military too once wasn't he...was he training fer something bigger..."

 

June 17, 2002 "...Wow - Mike looks, well, alot older than I do. I never would have recognized him. I remember that ex-military, ramrod straight posture who was being groomed for leadership. Was he ordained?..."5

According to former Way member, Karl Kahler, in his book, The Cult that Snapped, "The Corps is the priesthood of the ministry, the pool from which the clergy is chosen and all top posts are filled." 6 

In the 9th Corps thread on the Greasespot Cafe Forum, Michael's ex-wife Sara Rood or Sara Myers, aka Sally Myers was discussed. Sara divorced Michael December 7, 1994, with the divorce ratified March 14, 1995, leaving Sara with custody of their four girls and Michael apparently free to embark on his "ministry." The divorce was just prior to Michael embarking on his stated Torah Observant lifestyle and the release of his book, The Mystery of Iniquity. It is also just prior to launching, what is described by his staff as, "his speaking career." In 2002 Michael married Judith Dithers. It is unclear how Michael justifies divorce, while claiming to be a leader of God's people and Torah Observant.

It can be concluded by the discussion thread that Sara was also 7th or 9th Corps in The Way International.

"...Sally's name was Rood, but she became Sarah Myers (changed back after the divorce, I think she said on the old trancechat), and AirForce nurse, and mother of 4 daughters...the oldest of which I believe is grown..." December 05, 2002 21:20

"...michael looks a little different from when he was in the military..." December 09, 2002 06:16

"...Mikey...aged a bit. Good thing it hasn't happened to the rest of us!!!!!!!!!?? wow. Sara (Sally) had said that Michael had gone kinda off the deep end, spending time in Israel proclaiming the apocalype or something like that. He's not the way I remember him. (clean shaven!)..." December 09, 2002 5b" [spelling as seen]

On a pub7.ezboard.comForum, run by Grease Spot Cafe, and which has been locked down, we see discussion which includes Rood, and his co-worker James Louis. Jamie has the YaakovLevi.com web site , the fundraiser and Tour site for Rood. Stevie Kay is Jamie's first wife, whom he divorced around 1995. He is now with Connie Louis, nee Adams. The discussion thread reveals Jamie Louis's involvement in The Way International and also reveals that Michael Rood was still conducting and teaching in Way home fellowships as late as 1994 or 1995. [This information has been confirmed via others directly connected with Michael Rood, through private email correspondence.] The posters names have been removed for privacy reasons:

(6/10/01) Comment: Stevie Kay and Jamie Louis

"They brought so much good fun good fellowship good word of God and music into our lives...

Can anyone tell how/where they are now?..."

(6/10/01) Re: Stevie Kay and Jamie Louis

"I am sorry to say they are no longer married; been at least 5 yrs ago or more. Don't know where they live."

(6/10/01) Re: Stevie Kay and Jamie Louis

"...I knew them way back about 1978-1979. They were the BC's [Branch Coordinators] for Richmond , VA. and had branch meeting at lest monthly. Stevie would always sing a few songs while accompanying herself on the guitar. ...I remember their little girl...Sure sorry to hear they broke up. But that's the norm for TWI marriages. Staying together is the exception. Jamie had a job selling used cars back then. If I remember correctly and all his co-workers called him "REV". He liked that, I think, even though he didn't get ordained until later..."

(6/16/01) Jamie Louis

"...As of a few months ago Jamie was traveling with Michael Rude teaching on the feasts and such. Debi Morrow saw them at a broadcasters convention in Dallas. You might be able to find Michael Rude through "T Prophecy Club"..."

(6/16/01) Re: Jamie Louis

"Michael Rood's website is at www.6001.com [please note--that is no longer his domain]

"Last time I looked, a little over a year ago, the Web site included photos of Jamie Louis and Michael Rood and some other people I didn't know. ..."

(8/19/01) Re: Jamie Louis

" I remember seeing Jamie Louis at a CES conference back in June, 1998, and I guess he is traveling with Michael Rood.

Michael Rood came to teach at our home back in 1994 or 1995. He was teaching about the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation. It was quite a teaching...scared us half to death...I'm not so sure of the accuracy of it all but it was good to get together with believers at that time. He also was teaching many customs of the Jewish religion and such...interesting stuff...." 7

Please understand the reference to "get together with believers." Way doctrine teaches that only fellow Way people are believers. So we have "fellow believers" noting that both Michael Rood and Jamie Louis were ordained into the Way and placed in leadership positions. 

Update: Due to the 2007 controversial breakup of A Rood Awakening Ministries, the organization was split into two groups. One held by Jamie Louis in the original A Rood Awakening! Ministries Oregon office, and one held by Michael Rood and some new staff. Michael Rood launched a new corporation in Michigan, where his new office is, called A Rood Awakening! Ministries International. Two new websites were launched by the Rood camp, one called reallyrood.com in competition with the original aroodawakening.tv, unroododespertar.tv and aroodawakening.com, all of which have since been shut down. The new michaelroodministries.com was launched in direct competition to the original michaelrood.com, which has been shutdown. Jamie Louis also included in his Ya'akovlevi site the name of a new business called Torah to the Nations, based in Oregon. On December 14, 2007, Michael Rood's Michigan attorney's filed lawsuit against Jamie Louis.

http://www.seekgod.ca/rood.htm


1,157 posted on 07/28/2017 4:44:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Almost always, cult followers were do not want to clearly answer direct questions.

It will blow their cover and reveal their heretical teachings.

I’ve seen it with several other cults too.

I have seen it with the cult of Manalo too, otherwise known as the Iglesia ni Cristo. They are EXTREMELY hard headed, and hard hearted too. I think theirs is one of the most pernicious cults on earth. I used to go round and round with them, but I felt like I was casting pearls before swine.
By the way, you seem pretty calm, cool and collected, for one who is wild with rage. 😆😂😁🇵🇭

1,158 posted on 07/28/2017 4:50:50 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
By the way, you seem pretty calm, cool and collected, for one who is wild with rage.

Thanks.

I think we've seen a demonstration of anger and rage on the cult-follower side... just projection. Lashing out at those who criticize the mac-daddy.

😂

1,159 posted on 07/28/2017 4:55:10 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: editor-surveyor
What do people who were in The Way International think of Rood?

This is from greasespotcafe.com - where former TWI members hang out...

hey you kwazy skwewwel!........there ain't much "good" to be said about "rabbi" michael rood!......and he don't need no "memphis mafia" around him, like elvis!......he's enough of a pure sheister all on his own!!.......he never paid income taxes on any of his "expenses"!.....not only that, he's never filed since 1979!!.....when he got divorced in 1994 from the mother of his 4 daughters, he already owed the irs almost $100,000 in delinquent taxes, besides whatever penalties and interest were rapidly accruing to his delinquent account!.........his "mission in israel" was just a way to escape the irs and avoid paying child support for his four school-aged children through the 90's!.......

he claims to be a "true levite", and claims he owns nothing, has no insurance on anything he does'nt own and has no permanent place to dwell, or car to drive!......yet somehow, he is able to fly his daughters back and forth to israel for summer "working vacations" with him in his "minisrty"......his various "doomsday prophecies" have not come to pass, yet he insists he's still a frequent-flyer with yahweh in terms of the volume of revelation he has received and continues to receive!.......his "rabbinical training" consists of a brief stint with moses david and the children of god, in the early 1970's......then his fabulous twi experience while in the us marine corps, which he has hyperbolized and just outright lied about in his "official" resume!!..........he got his "theology degree" by graduating from the 7th corps, and was demoted several times from various leadership positions with twi for misappropriating various amounts of the "abundant sharing" to "meet his own needs"........there were a succession of "business failures" and liens on mortgages which were placed due to his incredible fiduciary accumen!!........when the mother of his children had to join the usaf in order to provide a home and the basic necessities of life for those children, his "plan", given to him "by revelation" from god, was to live in the texas hill country in a tent and allow god "to provide" for him and his wife and four daughters!!........he spent time supposedly driving a truck, during which time he scrawled "prophetic rants" against homosexuals on the bathroom walls of truckstops throughout the southwestern usa!!!.........his initial "calling" to the "hebrew roots" movement was inspired by his attendance at john hagee's outfit in san antoinio, tx.........and blossomed from there into full blown levitical "prophesy" in the mid 1990's......when he began to "really apply himself" to the fabulous biblical research techniques he learned from twi........finding as many spurious resources as he could to build his "rood awakening package".........amazingly, he outdid even vic when it came to his "research" findings of "original hebrew texts and manuscripts" which "proved" his revelations and prophecies...........and equally amazing, was how full of crap his research, revelations and prophecies were becoming!!!........but the money kept pouring in for this poor levite, as the lies and scams continued to pile up in his catalogue of books, cd's, dvd's, israel tours, etc., etc., etc.,

in the early fall of 1999, he managed to kidnap his 4 daughters from a us air force base in california, (with the covert "enlistment" of his oldest daughter in his plan) and attempt to fly them to israel, in order to protect them from the "thermonuclear attacks" which he prophesied would occur on both the east and west coasts of the usa during y2k!!!..............they made it as far as london's heathrow airport, where the fbi was able to catch up with them, and return the 3 younger girls to their mother, an officer in the usaf.......the oldest had just turned 18, and was allowed to make her own decision to continue on to israel with the "levite prophet".......when they were apprehended at heathrow, their luggage included military gasmasks and other "survival gear" which he had procured for their survival of the prophesied y2k attacks.........which attacks, obviously, never came to pass!!!...........nevertheless, the "rabbi" continued on with his old testament "walk" finding more and more spurious doctrines to preach and publish, and leading to the video productions of "a rood awakening ministries" which challenged us all to "leave our western gentile idolatry and theology behind" and join the rabbi in his mission to spread the real truth about yahweh and yeshua to all the nations of the world!!!!........uh huh........word over the world all over again!!!............

the seeds of self-destruction are sown into all the "ministries" that share the "spiritual DNA" of the way international, and their "father in the word", vic wierwille!.....no matter how far they try to distance themselves from their roots in vic's perverted theologies, no matter how hard they try to cover up their twi "tracks", the various "chickens" always come home to roost!!!.........the sad thing is that, there are always so many innocent "followers" or "believers" who wind up getting used and abused all over again, with time, talents and monies once again stolen from their lives, in search of the "truth of god's word"!!..........same old lies, same old psychodynamic, same old path of destruction.............seems they refuse to learn the fact that, you just can't change or re-arrange your "DNA", unless you truly change who your "parents" are!!.........bad "seed" will always yield bad fruit!!!...........as dylan sang............."when will they ever learn?".......................WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN?!!...............................peace.


1,160 posted on 07/28/2017 5:03:56 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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