Posted on 07/07/2017 7:45:07 PM PDT by marshmallow
Archbishop Charles Chaput also stated that gay Catholics should also ‘live chastely’ in new rules issued after Pope Francis urged more acceptance of others
Catholics in Philadelphia who are divorced and civilly remarried will be welcome to accept Holy Communion – as long as they abstain from sex and live out their relationships like “brother and sister”.
New guidelines published by the conservative archbishop of Philadelphia this month also called on priests within the archdiocese to help Catholics who are attracted to people of the same sex and “find chastity very difficult”, saying such individuals should be advised to frequently seek penance. Because same-sex attraction takes “diverse forms”, the archdiocese also said that some people can still live out a vocation of heterosexual marriage with children, notwithstanding “some degree of same-sex attraction”.
The guidelines, which took effect on 1 July, come three months after Pope Francis urged bishops to be more accepting of Catholics who lived outside of the church’s social teaching and doctrine, including people who have divorced and remarried, and people in same-sex relationships. The pope’s views were published in April in a document titled Amoris Laetitia (Joy of Love), which was hailed as potentially groundbreaking. Because the document called on bishops to show greater mercy and flexibility to bring Catholics back to the church, while also calling on bishops not to veer from church doctrine, it was seen as giving both traditional and more progressively minded bishops the chance to interpret the document as they saw fit.
The Philadelphia archbishop, Charles Chaput, is known as one of the staunchest conservative leaders in the US Catholic church, a view that is reflected in the rules the archdiocese published.
John Allen, a veteran Vatican journalist, said he believed Philadelphia was among the first archdiocese to publish such rules based on.....
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Mean while gay drug sex orgies are considered okay unles you get caught
Matthew 5:31-32: “It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a bill of divorce. But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful) causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.”
Sometimes when a response seems entirely unrelated, it’s because the poster forgot to which thread he was replying. Other times, it’s because he’s obsessed with some topic and posts about it every time.
It depends on which version you read. Links to KJV and NIV passages give you something a little different.
Released on March 9, 2011, the New American Bible, Revised Edition (NABRE) is the culmination of nearly 20 years of work by a group of nearly 100 scholars and theologians, including bishops, revisers and editors. The NABRE includes a newly revised translation of the entire Old Testament (including the Book of Psalms) along with the 1986 edition of the New Testament.
This is what I use.
What a great idea...said no one, ever.
“The church is not here to reconcile God to man, but to reconcile man to God”
Nicely said, Fungi.
Went a little over the line on a religion thread. Asked for my post to be removed.
Any way you slice it, homosexual practices is contrary to Biblical teachings. Since the Bible is God’s inspired word man has no authority to alter it.
Something that was hidden at the time of marriage, like an alcohol addiction. It’s not adequate to say “I didn’t know she was a nag.” My understanding, anyway.
OCD at FR: a feature, not a glitch.
We think it’s helping us cope in a world that seems to be spinning out of control. The funny part is, the world was always spinning out of control: that’s what entropy means. We just didn’t know about it, so it didn’t bother us.
Divorced and remarried folks shouldn't be living together. No matter what the excuse/reason for it, they are placing themselves in a near occasion of (mortal) sin. Catholic teaching is that we are obligated to avoid such occasions of sin.
As far as I can see, encouraging these folks to remain living together as "brother and sister" solves nothing at best and, at worst, places these souls in grave danger. I think the "new guidelines" are foolhardy and just another way to water down the Catholic Faith.
What if they have children together? Should the children be deprived of a normal life with both parents?
I'm not anti-Catholic at all. Catholic are my brothers in Christ. I guess because I do not bow to the RCC church that makes me a bigot... ?
As for my incoherent post...
As a service to my Catholic brother, I will offer you a few lessons on reading comprehension...
You’re right, nor probably first ones, either.
Exactly what do they tell the kids, "Kids, we're not really married, but as long as mom and dad don't have sex, we can stay together"? This is normal?? Or do they ignore the reality of the situation and not teach them the Catholic Faith? How is this best for the kids?
Also, how likely do you think they will be able to live as "brother and sister" given they already had children together? Like I said, regardless of the reasons for living together, they are living in a situation where they are constantly in near occasion of sin.
Perhaps the living together as brother and sister is a short term solution, but I don't see how this is a valid long term solution. I would say wait for the annulment, but I also think annulments are given out like candy, so I wouldn't necessarily believe that once they got it, the first marriage was truly never valid.
That's the same response as the disciples:
His disciples said to him, “If that is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” (Matt. 19:10)And yet our Lord did not soften his words at all.
The grace that God freely forgives the repentant sinner and gives us the grace to live the Commandments? Sure, we believe in that, don't you?
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