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To: daniel1212

Indeed. It is a painful tautology. The whole phrase you quoted from the Cardinal boils down ultimately to, “We’re right because we’re right.”


307 posted on 07/04/2017 4:22:56 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin
Indeed. It is a painful tautology. The whole phrase you quoted from the Cardinal boils down ultimately to, “We’re right because we’re right.”

Well, Rome has presumed to infallibly declare she is and will be perpetually infallible whenever she speaks in accordance with her infallibly defined (scope and subject-based) criteria, which renders her declaration that she is infallible, to be infallible, as well as all else she accordingly declares. How dare you try to disrupt this merry-go-round.

318 posted on 07/04/2017 6:42:54 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: Luircin; daniel1212
Not only, "We're right because we are right.", but:

    Rome has changed the meaning of tradition from demonstrating by patristic consent that a doctrine is truly part of tradition, to the concept of living tradition — whatever I say today is truth, irrespective of the witness of history. This goes back to the claims of Gnosticism to having received the tradition by living voice, viva voce. Only now Rome has reinterpreted viva voce, the living voice as receiving from the past by way of oral tradition, to be a creative and therefore entirely novel aspect of tradition. It creates tradition in its present teaching without appeal to the past. To paraphrase the Gnostic line, it is viva voce — whatever we say. Rome's New and Novel Concept of Tradition

320 posted on 07/04/2017 6:53:14 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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