[Luircin]

(2001 and 2002 in the reference, incidentally. Collaboration, pfft. As if that’s anything but works-righteousness by a different name.)

Bye-bye!

[papertyger]

So again, it doesn’t say what you claim, just like I didn’t say what you claim, and just like the Bible doesn’t say what you claim.

I have no doubt of your desire to disengage from me. It mustn’t be easy to have ones credibility shredded over and over again by someone else using nothing but ones own words.

[papertyger]

Collaboration, pfft. As if that’s anything but works-righteousness by a different name.

So it's not a matter of the Catechism saying what you allege, it's matter of you refusing to accept the definition of "collaboration" in favor of an unbiblical doctrine that can not integrate verses like James 2:17 into the Thumpers self-serving definition of "grace."