[Campion]

I don't know of any Catholic who says that one is saved by "Mary and the magistrum," whatever that means.

See above.

[redgolum]

It was pretty common back in the old Religion forum days. A guy by the name of “Herman the C##” (Can’t remember the last part) used to tell me all the time that we are saved through Mary to Christ.

After butting heads with him for a few years, I gave up and conceded that he was in a different religion.