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Evangelicals & Catholics Together: The Christian Mission in the Third Millennium
First Things ^ | May 1994 | Various

Posted on 06/25/2017 2:15:14 PM PDT by D-fendr

Together we contend for the truth that politics, law, and culture must be secured by moral truth. With the Founders of the American experiment, we declare, “We hold these truths.” With them, we hold that this constitutional order is composed not just of rules and procedures but is most essentially a moral experiment. With them, we hold that only a virtuous people can be free and just, and that virtue is secured by religion. To propose that securing civil virtue is the purpose of religion is blasphemous. To deny that securing civil virtue is a benefit of religion is blindness.

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To: redgolum
The good news is the same. That we share. And, as you say, we can and should do work on the ground level. We share much more than we differ. We can do more work on that discussion.
"Whatever may be the future form of the relationship between our communities, we can, we must, and we will begin now the work required to remedy what we know to be wrong in that relationship. Such work requires trust and understanding, and trust and understanding require an assiduous attention to truth. We do not deny but clearly assert that there are disagreements between us. Misunderstandings, misrepresentations, and caricatures of one another, however, are not disagreements. These distortions must be cleared away if we are to search through our honest differences in a manner consistent with what we affirm and hope together on the basis of God’s Word."

21 posted on 06/26/2017 11:00:17 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Luircin
>>>The fact that they refuse to do so unless I’m also Catholic.

Perhaps you're both wrong in letting this be an impediment.

>>So I’m a filthy heretic.

And Catholics have heretical views according to Evangelical theology. It is still possible to disagree without being disagreeable and to strive, however imperfectly, to jointly and cooperatively seek the truth. From the article:

"We Search Together

Together we search for a fuller and clearer understanding of God’s revelation in Christ and his will for his disciples. Because of the limitations of human reason and language, which limitations are compounded by sin, we cannot understand completely the transcendent reality of God and his ways. Only in the End Time will we see face to face and know as we are known. (1 Corinthians 13) We now search together in confident reliance upon God’s self-revelation in Jesus Christ, the sure testimony of Holy Scripture, and the promise of the Spirit to his church. In this search to understand the truth more fully and clearly, we need one another. We are both informed and limited by the histories of our communities and by our own experiences. Across the divides of communities and experiences, we need to challenge one another, always speaking the truth in love building up the Body. (Ephesians 4)

We do not presume to suggest that we can resolve the deep and long-standing differences between Evangelicals and Catholics. Indeed these differences may never be resolved short of the Kingdom Come. Nonetheless, we are not permitted simply to resign ourselves to differences that divide us from one another. Not all differences are authentic disagreements, nor need all disagreements divide. Differences and disagreements must be tested in disciplined and sustained conversation. In this connection we warmly commend and encourage the formal theological dialogues of recent years between Roman Catholics and Evangelicals.

thanks for your reply...
22 posted on 06/26/2017 11:08:34 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Campion

It was pretty common back in the old Religion forum days. A guy by the name of “Herman the C##” (Can’t remember the last part) used to tell me all the time that we are saved through Mary to Christ.

After butting heads with him for a few years, I gave up and conceded that he was in a different religion.


23 posted on 06/27/2017 5:10:27 AM PDT by redgolum
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