Posted on 06/18/2017 2:09:43 PM PDT by narses
I believe in Tradition because the Bible tells me so.
You can pick up the chapter and verse thingies in the above article. Yay, Paul!
I also believe in Free Will because I’m predestined to do so. Hey! I have no choice!
Well written. For those with the time, Robert Sungenis wrote a great book - “Not by Scripture Alone”
Mary worship, relic worship, annulment, holy water, and so many more things the Catholic church maintains are pagan. There is no praying to anyone but Christ to intercede in the Bible.
“Traditions” are not made legitimate if they are not in Scripture.
Pure garbage.
Revelation 22: 18-19
Regarding the relics of saints, especially martyrs (about whom the Bible says, “Precious in the eyes of the Lord is the death of his holy ones” [Ps 116:15]), look at 2 Kings 13:21:
Elisha died and was buried. At the time, bands of Moabites used to raid the land each year. Once some people were burying a man, when suddenly they spied such a raiding band. So they cast the dead man into the grave of Elisha and everyone went off. But when the man came in contact with the bones of Elisha, he came back to life and rose to his feet.
What if the Bible tells you to hold fast to your traditions.
“Regarding the relics of saints, especially martyrs (about whom the Bible says, “Precious in the eyes of the Lord is the death of his holy ones” [Ps 116:15]), look at 2 Kings 13:21:”
Quote the rest of the passage that encourages saving bones, breast milk, preserved bodies, etc., to kiss, fondle pray too, etc..
Oh, wait. I see. It isn’t there.
Prove your answer using Scripture Alone.
Have a happy Father’s day.
Catholics do NOT worship Mary. We ask her to pray for us. Relics are simply a remembrance of a saint. Are you familiar with the miracles worked through some relics?
Please check the different definitions of “Tradition” in Webster Dictionary. You are thinking of rituals that are repeated yearly. That is only one definition of “Tradition.”
In the New Testament, we find two instances of God working through objects related to holy people. The first comes from the Gospel of Mark and is related to Jesus:
When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak, because she thought, “If I just touch his clothes, I will be healed.” Immediately her bleeding stopped and she felt in her body that she was freed from her suffering. (Mark 5.27-29)
And the second comes from the book of Acts and is related to the Apostle Paul:
God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. (Acts 19.11-12)
We can see in both the Old and the New Testaments the precedence for thinking that God could work miracles through each of the kinds of relics: a first degree relic in the case of Elisha’s body, a second degree relic in the case of Jesus’ clothes, and a third degree relic in the case of the the items Paul had touched. Technically, the Church holds any object related to Christ to be a first degree relic since Jesus is, after all, God incarnate, but the point here is that there is a clear precedence in Scripture for thinking that God could work a miracle through the belonging of a holy person.
There are Christians like me, who do believe that God still speaks and may say new things. They may be small things that are personal and have to do with someone’s life path. The point is, God will never, never contradict Holy Scripture. If what is being told you as God’s Word contradicts Holy Scripture then run from it as fast as you can.
In my opinion there is so much in the Catholic Church that contradicts Holy Scripture that it is frightening. I try very hard not to get myself entangled with Catholic spirituality. I get in profound trouble when I decide to cross this line in my life.
That being said, I believe that many Catholics are well intentioned. Catholics may even be saved, if they truly believe in Jesus Christ as their LORD and Saviour. Unfortunately many Catholics miss Christ through the fog of the many false doctrines in the Catholic Church. This is very, very sad. It’s like they cannot see the tree (Jesus Christ) through the forest of Catholic false doctrines. To help them is like trying to help someone out of the deepest cult, maybe harder. They are so sure that, because of it’s age, the Catholic Church is the true Church. This is what they rely on instead of The Holy Spirit, God’s Holy Word, the invisible true Church of Jesus Christ, His body, of which He is the head, and of course, most importantly, on Jesus Christ Himself, personally. God help them.
Hoo boy...
Another ‘Let’s-insult-Protestants’ thread. AGAIN. You could have just talked about Catholic doctrine, but nooooo. You had to pick a fight.
With a side order of http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3562024/posts just to top it off.
A very, VERY reluctant ping to the defenders of the faith.
Well, whatever the case I reported the thread to the mods... just to keep an eye on it. No idea if it’s breaking any rules, but I suspect that this may require some attention even if the thread itself doesn’t.
I missed in Scripture ever recorded someone worshipping, idolizing, praying to them, or fondling and kissing them.
“Come out from among them and be holy.”
How is this thread “against the rules”????
Indeed he did!
n the New Testament, we find two instances of God working through objects related to holy people. The first comes from the Gospel of Mark and is related to Jesus:
When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak, because she thought, “If I just touch his clothes, I will be healed.” Immediately her bleeding stopped and she felt in her body that she was freed from her suffering. (Mark 5.27-29)
And the second comes from the book of Acts and is related to the Apostle Paul:
God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. (Acts 19.11-12)
We can see in both the Old and the New Testaments the precedence for thinking that God could work miracles through each of the kinds of relics: a first degree relic in the case of Elisha’s body, a second degree relic in the case of Jesus’ clothes, and a third degree relic in the case of the the items Paul had touched. Technically, the Church holds any object related to Christ to be a first degree relic since Jesus is, after all, God incarnate, but the point here is that there is a clear precedence in Scripture for thinking that God could work a miracle through the belonging of a holy person.
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