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To: Claud

Catholicism does not recognize a marriage that is not done by a Catholics priest as valid.

That means they consider everyone not married as Catholics by a Catholic priest to be living in sin.

Not to mention the claim that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic church. They are claiming to be the sole means by which people can get to heaven.

Both those things are claiming jurisdiction over everyone on the planet.


39 posted on 06/10/2017 2:51:06 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Catholicism does not recognize a marriage that is not done by a Catholics priest as valid.

That means they consider everyone not married as Catholics by a Catholic priest to be living in sin.

Horse hockey. I guess I will just have to be content to live in sin. 😂😁😆

41 posted on 06/10/2017 3:22:43 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: metmom
Who told you that?

A marriage between two Protestants by a Protestant minister is assumed to be valid and sacramental. Marriage between pagans is valid too, although not sacramental. But it's invalid when a baptized Catholic gets married to a Protestant in a Protestant church without dispensation from form, because if you are a Catholic you are required to follow the Catholic Rite of Matrimony.

Very simple principle here. If you are a Catholic you are bound to follow ecclesiastical law. If you are Orthodox, Protestant, pagan, or Jewish you are still bound to follow the natural law, but you are not bound by ecclesiastical law.

42 posted on 06/10/2017 4:28:31 PM PDT by Claud
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To: metmom; Claud
Catholicism does not recognize a marriage that is not done by a Catholics priest as valid.

As Claud said, that is not correct, "a marriage between two Protestants by a Protestant minister is assumed to be valid and sacramental" if the Protestants have been validly baptized.

And the term "Catholic" should not be used to exclude the Orthodox, who also can call themselves Catholic, and hold to many of the same errors . Thus using "Roman Catholic" to distinguish is proper.

But unlike in Scripture, Rome has multiple conditions, many enabling subjective judgment, under which she can declare a marriage never existed, which, in the light of what she has annulled, potentially means multitudes of Catholics are not validly married, even though Rome does not consider them so until she says they are.

47 posted on 06/11/2017 5:51:59 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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