To: kosciusko51
You are confusing 'predestination' with 'omnipotence'.When we are created by God, and our soul and spirit are united to our body, God asks us: "Will you Serve?" (Thus, Lucifer's: "Non Servium", I will not serve.) If we say, "yes", He asks: "At what level", the highest level obviously being martyrdom. It is also true that if we say, "no", then He will again ask, "At what level?" At Lucifer's 'Non Servium' level, he obviously said, "Not only will I not serve, but I will bring all of my followers, human and demonic, against You with our shared 'Non Servium'."
God places us where we have, by our own free wills in this encounter, told Him He needs to put us. Either where we will serve Him or where He can protect Himself and those who will serve Him against the ones who won't. Since He gives us a free will, to be true to Himself, He must allow us to use it no matter how much it may hurt Him or us. This is the Meekness and Humility of our God! His Power as He told St. Paul is made perfect in our infirmity.
To: Little Blue Nun
If God is omnipotent, then none can defy Him, unless He permits it, as shown in Job where God deals with Satan.
And Mary did not have a choice in being the mother of Jesus; God chose her and she acknowledged God’s sovereignty.
To: Little Blue Nun; kosciusko51
When we are created by God, and our soul and spirit are united to our body, God asks us: "Will you Serve?" (Thus, Lucifer's: "Non Servium", I will not serve.) If we say, "yes", He asks: "At what level", the highest level obviously being martyrdom. It is also true that if we say, "no", then He will again ask, "At what level?" At Lucifer's 'Non Servium' level, he obviously said, "Not only will I not serve, but I will bring all of my followers, human and demonic, against You with our shared 'Non Servium'." God places us where we have, by our own free wills in this encounter, told Him He needs to put us. Either where we will serve Him or where He can protect Himself and those who will serve Him against the ones who won't. I'm curious...did you get this revelation from someone high up or is this your own concoction, because it sure isn't found anywhere in Scripture?
738 posted on
06/07/2017 7:37:16 PM PDT by
boatbums
(Authority has a way of descending to certitude, and certitude begets hubris.)
To: Little Blue Nun; boatbums; metmom; Elsie
When we are created by God, and our soul and spirit are united to our body, God asks us: "Will you Serve?" (Thus, Lucifer's: "Non Servium", I will not serve.) If we say, "yes", He asks: "At what level", the highest level obviously being martyrdom. I have to admit, this is the first time in my entire life, that I EVER heard anyone say this. I gotta disagree again LBN. God never asked me ANY of those questions, and I don't know anyone who has ever been asked those questions by God. It sounds a tiny bit like Mormon doctrine, the spirit baby thing, and star base Kolob.
Like BB, I would like to know where you got this idea? I don't think it came from the Holy Spirit. I wail not join you in this. I hope you repent, so you can go to Heaven, even though I have no clue what your eternal standing with God is. I do not, however, believe this doctrine for a second.
742 posted on
06/07/2017 8:31:02 PM PDT by
Mark17
(Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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