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To: Mrs. Don-o; aMorePerfectUnion; Salvation; ealgeone

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>> “I don’t think that all the churches, in all places, lied all the time” <<

Lets start with Irenaeus, who wrote in “Against Heresies” that the heart of Yeshua’s gospel was “the Teaching.”

Torah is specifically “the teaching,” and 90% of Yeshua’s words were instruction in living the Torah. The first written description of Yeshua’s words and deeds was, according to Papias, Matthews gospel that was written in his native tongue, Hebrew, from which it was translated to other tongues

That makes considerable sense, since Matthew, the Cohen, was the only literate disciple.

Paul, the only literate apostle, told us that the “oracles of God” (the word) were committed to Judah.

From that we see that writings from others that were of other nations, cannot be a legitimate part of the word. The Canon has to be from Judah.

The writings that the Roman church promulgates and claims to have given us are mostly not from Judah.

The writers from the House of Judah (Paul, Peter, John, James, Jude) conversed in only Hebrew, the language of the Garden.

Attempts to force Judah to accept Greek were repelled, as well described in the Maccabees.

Greek translations of the Apostles writings are mostly what survive, and are filled with clumsy misunderstandings of the native Hebrew culture and traditions.

Those clumsy translations are why few have any understanding of the Gospel of the Kingdom. From them came distortions and outright lies when the Roman empire decided to create a religion to bond the worship of Yeshua to the pure pagan sungod worship of Rome.

Truly it is Paganism, since it is not the pure worship of the disciples of Yeshua.
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61 posted on 05/13/2017 4:47:47 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; aMorePerfectUnion; Salvation; ealgeone
Editor-surveyor: Your broad rejection of ALL Christian churches (not only Catholic) and ALL Christian Scriptures (e.g. the Greek NT) puts you in opposition to historic Christendom including Protestantism, Evangelicalism and common "Christianity" per se. You say that there is no church.

You also say that the "saved" are those followers of Yeshua who follow Torah and keep the Jewish Sabbath, and that none of those whom we commonly know as members of Christian "churches" are saved.

Isn't that so?

69 posted on 05/13/2017 5:21:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I praise you for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you." - 1 Cor 11:2)
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