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To: Mrs. Don-o

Typical translated wrong with “church” capitalized which denotes the Catholic denomination rather that the Biblical meaning of the church.

The quote means to take it to the body of believers...Catholicism does NOT encompass all believers.


64 posted on 04/08/2017 10:51:39 AM PDT by Syncro (The church that Jesus started does encompass all believers)
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To: Syncro
If you were reading what I wrote at #191 you would see that I am not talking about Roman Catholicism as specifically organized in a monarchical form, with an administrative center known as "The Vatican." I've been writing, rather, about the Apostolic beliefs and practices of the ancient Churches East and West which still subsist as Catholicism, Eastern and Oriental Orthodoxy, and the Assyrian Church of the East.

It's a little different historic perspective, one which you might not be used to.

For instance, you might want to consider the Armenian Church. The Kingdom of Armenia was not part of the Roman Empire, but it declared Christianity to be its official national religion in 300 A.D. (when Christianity was still outlawed in the Empire.) Can anyone honestly imagine that their doctrines were invented by Rome?

If I'm supposed to "listen to the church" (as Jesus says and I quote in the tagline) I first have to FIND the church. It has to be locatable. It has to be identifiable.

That's where "One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic" --- the four "Marks of the Church" come in: as a way to identify where or what or who is the Church.

You do see the relevance of this, right? It's not a matter of denominationalism. It's a matter of identifying the vital continuities which link any particular self-identified Church with that Church which was being spread by the Apostles in the First Century AD.

69 posted on 04/08/2017 11:19:58 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If he refuses to listen even to the Church, regard him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.")
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