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To: Campion
You might check up on exactly what it is that Papal Infallibility protects

Er OK. So if the he doesn't get to be infallible on doctrine that just what is he infallible on? The best wine to serve at mass?

17 posted on 04/07/2017 3:37:16 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Boiler Plate
So if the he doesn't get to be infallible on doctrine that just what is he infallible on? The best wine to serve at mass?

He has to actually say that he is speaking infallibly, "ex cathedra," for it to be infallible. That's happened only four times in two thousand years. This isn't one of them.

19 posted on 04/07/2017 4:43:42 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. ~~~~ Appeasing evil is cowardice.)
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To: Boiler Plate
Why don't you just look it up?

Here's Wikipedia

According to the teaching of the First Vatican Council and Catholic tradition, the conditions required for ex cathedra papal teaching are as follows:

For a teaching by a pope or ecumenical council to be recognized as infallible, the teaching must:

Each of those phrases is constitutive for infallibility. If one condition is missing, what you have is a non-infallible statement.

22 posted on 04/07/2017 6:12:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of Fact.)
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To: Boiler Plate

Only a (1) definitive (not speculative) teaching (2) on faith or morals (3) addressed to the whole church (4) by the Pope speaking as Pope (not, e.g., as a private individual) is protected by infallibility. All four qualifications have to be met.


23 posted on 04/07/2017 6:13:21 PM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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