To: Campion
You might check up on exactly what it is that Papal Infallibility protects Er OK. So if the he doesn't get to be infallible on doctrine that just what is he infallible on? The best wine to serve at mass?
17 posted on
04/07/2017 3:37:16 PM PDT by
Boiler Plate
("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
To: Boiler Plate
So if the he doesn't get to be infallible on doctrine that just what is he infallible on? The best wine to serve at mass? He has to actually say that he is speaking infallibly, "ex cathedra," for it to be infallible. That's happened only four times in two thousand years. This isn't one of them.
19 posted on
04/07/2017 4:43:42 PM PDT by
BlessedBeGod
(To restore all things in Christ. ~~~~ Appeasing evil is cowardice.)
To: Boiler Plate
Why don't you just look it up?
Here's Wikipedia
According to the teaching of the First Vatican Council and Catholic tradition, the conditions required for ex cathedra papal teaching are as follows:
- the Roman Pontiff
- speaks ex cathedra,
- that is, when, (in the discharge of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, and by virtue of his supreme apostolic authority,)
- he defines
- a doctrine
- concerning faith or morals
- to be held by the whole Church.
For a teaching by a pope or ecumenical council to be recognized as infallible, the teaching must:
- Be a decision of the supreme teaching authority of the Church (the Pope alone or with the College of Bishops)
- Concern a doctrine of faith or morals
- Bind the universal Church
- Be proposed as something to hold firmly and immutably
Each of those phrases is constitutive for infallibility. If one condition is missing, what you have is a non-infallible statement.
22 posted on
04/07/2017 6:12:54 PM PDT by
Mrs. Don-o
(Point of Fact.)
To: Boiler Plate
Only a (1) definitive (not speculative) teaching (2) on faith or morals (3) addressed to the whole church (4) by the Pope speaking as Pope (not, e.g., as a private individual) is protected by infallibility. All four qualifications have to be met.
23 posted on
04/07/2017 6:13:21 PM PDT by
Campion
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