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To: AppyPappy

Was Judas ever saved in the first place? No, Jesus didn’t cast him out, but is there any indication that Judas ever really belonged to Jesus in a saving faith kind of way, as opposed to Judas being an opportunist and trying to ride on the coattails and hopefully getting an in in the kingdom.

Just because Jesus chose him to fulfill prophecy doesn’t mean he was saved.

God can and will use unbelievers if needed. He’s done it before and can do it again.


130 posted on 02/20/2017 3:58:51 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
God can and will use unbelievers if needed.

"You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder."

From James 2, Faith and Deeds:


14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds.

19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[d]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[e] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.

25 In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

140 posted on 02/20/2017 4:27:04 PM PST by amorphous
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