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To: Springfield Reformer
“May” is an English term used to represent the Greek subjunctive, but in English can represent either conditionality or purpose, so it is somewhat ambiguous in the English. But in the Greek it is very clear.

Wow! Thanks for this very clear exposition of this subjunctive usage in Greek!

I just never understood that the "may" or "might" used by the KJV translators does not admit of possibility, but rather a certainty of execution. In fact, my disciple has clearly indicated that the "may/might" could be struck out without changing the meaning to be obtained from the translation (although its presence must then indicate that the associated verb is in the subjunctive mood in the Greek).

Am I understanding you correctly, and thoroughly?

I wonder if Machen or Robertson or Mounce or Wallace have this idea somewhere in their grammar texts. If so, do you know where that would be found?

I am so impressed with this nugget of syntax! Thanks!

1,488 posted on 01/25/2017 10:20:15 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Hi. What you’re saying sounds about right. I think it still needs some sort of helper in the English to get the sense across, so if “may/might” were struck, you’d have to still do something extra to clarify the exact shade of meaning. As for the standard Greek texts, it’s been a few years since I’ve been in one of those. I’m not sure where they’d talk about this.

Peace,

SR


1,493 posted on 01/25/2017 10:57:20 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: imardmd1
Hey bro. I have a Greek friend, here in the Philippines. In addition to Greek, he speaks Arabic, Hebrew, English, Spanish, French and Italian. I showed him John 3:15 in Greek, with the English translation below it. He said he felt uncomfortable with the word "may" He said it meant to him, something that was definitely going to happen, not some hopeful thought or wish.
By the way, I will be in California on Monday, for about a month. I don't like to leave my beloved here, but I will be back soon. 😎
1,496 posted on 01/26/2017 1:39:56 AM PST by Mark17 (20 Years USAF ATCer, Retired. 25 years CDCR C/O, Retired)
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