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To: daniel1212; knarf; MHGinTN; redleghunter; Mark17; Springfield Reformer; ealgeone; metmom

Behold Daniel1212’s golden calf (his demonization of love for Mary). Does he burn incense to it and pour out drink libations before it? Is that why he tries to pin such activities on innocent God-fearing Catholics? His repudiation of love for the mother of Christ is his golden calf. It makes him and his fellow rebels rich as it draws Catholics out of true religion. All he has to do is villanize Marian devotion (even though espoused by countless saints and faithful over 2,000 years) and lo and behold thousands of weak Catholics flock to his prison of mental bondage, increasing the wealth of the Protestant pastors, while impoverishing even further the faith of the newly-minted heretics.

This is perhaps God’s way of punishing lukewarm Christians, allowing them to be sent d1212’s delusion.

Faithful Catholics can trace their practices historically consistently over the course of 2,000 years by observance of all the saints throughout those 2,000 years.

Not d1212. He is please to (try) to skip all that history because if he didn’t he would have to research and might learn that there was never a mentionable resistance to the cult of Mary until after Mr. Luther showed them how to make a fuss and how to be as independent as the devil.

And d1212 has already demonstrated that he despises tiny cults, which practice is not found in the scriptures.

Today January 25 is the Feast of the Conversion of Saint Paul and also we are in the time of the Chair of Unity Octave, first introduced by Pope St. Pius X in 1908.

Mother Mary, if it pleases thee, do intercede for the poor Protestants that they may confess their errors, repent and believe in the Good News of the Gospel and become unified to Mother Church.


1,422 posted on 01/25/2017 9:32:00 AM PST by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: Repent and Believe
Faithful Catholics can trace their practices historically consistently over the course of 2,000 years by observance of all the saints throughout those 2,000 years.

Uh....no they can't. Unless one just selectively chooses which position the ECF the catholic likes holds.

Time means nothing when it comes to truthfulness.

The Hindu can claim a long history as can other false doctrines.

The revealed truth in God's Word is the only standard we have that has been inspired by the Holy Spirit.

In either case, if the catholic wants to run with Tradition the Tradition must not contradict Scripture.

Most of the Marian worship in Roman Catholicism contradicts the written texts we have.

1,424 posted on 01/25/2017 9:46:18 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Repent and Believe; daniel1212; knarf; MHGinTN; redleghunter; Mark17; Springfield Reformer; ...
Behold Daniel1212’s golden calf (his demonization of love for Mary).

More fake news.

He is not *demonizing* love for Mary.

He's clearly exposing the error of worshiping and praying to her.

Trying to keep people from sinning by relegating to her rightful place among mankind, as just another believer, is NOT demonizing her.

Does he burn incense to it and pour out drink libations before it?

You mean like Catholics who light candles to and leave offerings at the feet of statues of Mary?

His repudiation of love for the mother of Christ is his golden calf. It makes him and his fellow rebels rich as it draws Catholics out of true religion.

BWAHAHAHA!!!!

Yeah, we're just making a fortune from telling people they are sinning by praying to anyone but God.

Hey, when are the checks supposed to start rolling in? I haven't seen mine yet.

Faithful Catholics can trace their practices historically consistently over the course of 2,000 years by observance of all the saints throughout those 2,000 years.

And faithful CHRISTIANS don't go beyond what is written in Scripture and elevate tradition over the inerrant, God breathed, Holy Spirit inspired Word of God.

Mother Mary, if it pleases thee, do intercede for the poor Protestants that they may confess their errors, repent and believe in the Good News of the Gospel and become unified to Mother Church.

She can't hear you or read your internet postings.

She's dead and in heaven and that's not her concern anymore.

And why would Catholics want Mary to pray for them when as a born again believer, they can have both Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit intercede to the Father for them according to God's will?

Romans 8:26-27 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

Romans 8:33-34 Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us.

Hebrews 7:25 Consequently, he (Jesus) is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.

1,429 posted on 01/25/2017 10:04:56 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Repent and Believe

The deceiver has hold of your heart ... no one is rejecting love for The Mother of Jesus. we are, several of us, firmly rejecting your worship of Mary, as if she were the mother of God and nearing equal status as a goddess. You are in deep error and the twister is framing your reasoning. YOU have said you can worship God by worshipping the Mother of Jesus as ‘the mother of God’. That is blasphemy and opens your soul to be manipulated by the evil one who is a father of lies.


1,430 posted on 01/25/2017 10:06:53 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: Repent and Believe
Behold Daniel1212’s golden calf (his demonization of love for Mary). ...His repudiation of love for the mother of Christ is his golden calf.

Your latest desperate ad hominem blather simply further testifies to your utter lack of any valid defense for your idolatry - which is a from of slander against the holy humble Mary of Scripture - and tiny Catholic cult.

Faithful Catholics can trace their practices historically consistently over the course of 2,000 years by observance of all the saints throughout those 2,000 years.

Once again, your attempted argument from post-apostolic, extra-Scriptural tradition simply testifies to departure from Scripture. Repent and Believe indeed!

Faithful Catholics can trace their practices historically consistently over the course of 2,000 years by observance of all the saints throughout those 2,000 years.

Another refuted LIE, as despite challenges, you are utterly unable to provide even one prayer by a believer to anyone else in Heaven except God, or bowing down to any graven image or any mortal in praise and supplication, or engaging in the profuse Marian type adulation and ascriptions of attributes and powers to anyone but God. Add to the the lack of any valid early evidence of the Assumption and crowning, etc. Simply fables and devotion akin to paganism, versus what Scripture teaches.

Even the Catholic Encyclopedia speculates that a further reinforcement of Marian devotion, “was derived from the cult of the angels, which, while pre-Christian in its origin, was heartily embraced by the faithful of the sub-Apostolic age...Evidence regarding the popular practice of the early centuries is almost entirely lacking...,” (Catholic Encyclopedia > Devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary) "

Mother Mary, if it pleases thee,

Seeing you may have set a strikeout record in failing to produce one valid Scriptural argument for your idolatry, it is quite evident that you do not even have a prayer.

1,483 posted on 01/25/2017 8:35:00 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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