Posted on 01/02/2017 4:25:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
...If the Church were to change its rules on shared Eucharistic Communion it would go against Revelation and the Magisterium, leading Christians to commit blasphemy and sacrilege, an Italian theologian has warned.
Drawing on the Churchs teaching based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, Msgr. Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, stressed that non-Catholic Christians must have undertaken baptism and confirmation in the Catholic Church, and repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.
Msgr. Bux was responding to the Register about concerns that elements of the current pontificate might be sympathetic of a form of open Communion proposed by the German Protestant theologian, Jürgen Moltmann.
The concerns have arisen primarily due to the Holy Fathers own comments on Holy Communion and Lutherans, his apparent support for some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion, and how others have used his frequently repeated maxim about the Eucharist: that it is not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.
The debate specifically over intercommunion with Christian denominations follows recent remarks by Cardinal Walter Kasper who, in a Dec. 10 interview with Avvenire, said he hopes Pope Francis next declaration will open the way for intercommunion with other denominations in special cases.
The German theologian said shared Eucharistic communion is just a matter of time, and that the Popes recent participation in the Reformation commemoration in Lund has given a new thrust to the ecumenical process.
Pope Francis has often expressed his admiration for Cardinal Kaspers theology whose thinking has significantly influenced the priorities of this pontificate, particularly on the Eucharist.
For Moltmann, Holy Communion is the Lord's supper, not something organized by a church or a denomination...
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Did you get baptized again? When you were "reborn"?
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews;
2this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.
3Jesus answered and said to him, Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4Nicodemus said to Him, How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mothers womb and be born, can he?
5Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7Do not be amazed that I said to you, You must be born again.
8The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.
9Nicodemus said to Him, How can these things be?
10Jesus answered and said to him, Are you the teacher of Israel and do not understand these things?
11Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not accept our testimony.
12If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?
13No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.
14As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
15so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.
John 3:1-15 NASB
We reject what the Catholic church calls as confession as there is NO precedent for it as the Catholic church practices it anywhere in the NT.
And admonition of confessing out sins to each other does not mean going to a separated priestly class to do it nor is there any instruction for the whole confessional thing.
we believe in going to the person we wronged to ask them to forgive us, not anonymously going to a third party and telling them about it and never making it right with the party we wronged.
That's the cowardly way out. It's MUCH harder to confess to the person we wronged face to face and admit that we wronged them and ask them to forgive us for it.
The problem a lot of Catholics have is conflating rejection of the false teachings of Catholicism with rejection of God.
Not the same thing at all.
Why? Are they lesbians?
When they simply WILL NOT listen, sometimes there’s no choice.
However, there is the lurkers who may be learning the truth for the first time and to let the false claim that Luther removed books from the Bible stand does a disservice to them.
No, Jesus' death is greater than my sin.
It is no longer holding Him there. He rose again to prove that He triumphed over death and conquered it and sin was defeated.
It no longer has any power to hold Him there.
Thats what He died for, to save you in His Church.
Salvation is through faith, not a church. When we are saved, we become His church, part of His true spiritual body, not part of a religious organization that claims it's His body but doesn't act a think like Christ.
I'm getting tired of "We". Who exactly is we and are you their spokesman?
Is "we" all people (aka heretics) who claim to be Christians yet reject the Church He established?
If they were the one I wronged, then YES!
You are correct BB. The ignorance is willful. I am reminded of Matthew 15:8-9. This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Due to judicial hardening, I think many, if not all, grow further away from Jesus, not closer.
Here is another angle I see. Since Satan tries to counterfeit everything that God creates, the fact that there are false religions out there, tells me they are counterfeits, but a counterfeit, means the REAL TRUTH is there too.
If anyone has an occasional honest doubt that they have the truth, just look at all the counterfeit religions out there.
Who do you confess to when you commit adultery?
The wife or the mistress?
1 John 1:7-10 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
So what right does the priest have to retain sin that God promised would be forgiven if confessed? The priest certainly cannot read minds or know another person's heart.
I was born again in Aug 1977.
I don’t know the exact date but I do remember the exact circumstances.
It was at work.
I did get baptized again because I wanted to make the public profession of my faith of my own volition that I could remember.
The apostles did not eat Jesus during the Last Supper.
He was sitting in front of them handing out bread and wine.
But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.It's a nice promotion. You should accept it.
(1 Peter 2:9-10)
No. They’re MEN.
Real men don’t wear dresses.
The mistress already knows.
The wife is the one wronged and she needs to be confessed to and asked forgiveness for the husband’s betrayal.
Legalistic thinking on display there.
SR is correct, everyone who is wronged gets the confession.
And if it’s more than one, it’s more than one. Nothing I said demanded that it be to only one person.
He was sitting in front of them handing out bread and wine.
So I guess Christ lied when He said, "Take ye, and eat. This is my body". Or this, "Drink ye all of this. For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins.
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