Theologian: Shared Communion With Protestants Would be Blasphemy and Sacrilege

National Catholic Register ^ | January 2, 2017 | Edward Pentin

[BlessedBeGod]

...If the Church were to change its rules on shared Eucharistic Communion it would “go against Revelation and the Magisterium”, leading Christians to “commit blasphemy and sacrilege,” an Italian theologian has warned.

Drawing on the Church’s teaching based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, Msgr. Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, stressed that non-Catholic Christians must have undertaken baptism and confirmation in the Catholic Church, and repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.

Msgr. Bux was responding to the Register about concerns that elements of the current pontificate might be sympathetic of a form of “open Communion” proposed by the German Protestant theologian, Jürgen Moltmann.

The concerns have arisen primarily due to the Holy Father’s own comments on Holy Communion and Lutherans, his apparent support for some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion, and how others have used his frequently repeated maxim about the Eucharist: that it is “not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.”

The debate specifically over intercommunion with Christian denominations follows recent remarks by Cardinal Walter Kasper who, in a Dec. 10 interview with Avvenire, said he hopes Pope Francis’ next declaration will open the way for intercommunion with other denominations “in special cases.”

The German theologian said shared Eucharistic communion is just a matter of time, and that the Pope’s recent participation in the Reformation commemoration in Lund has given “a new thrust” to the “ecumenical process.”

Pope Francis has often expressed his admiration for Cardinal Kasper’s theology whose thinking has significantly influenced…the priorities of this pontificate, particularly on the Eucharist.

For Moltmann, Holy Communion is “the Lord's supper, not something organized by a church or a denomination”...

[ebb tide]

BTW, I am old enough to know what the real meaning of the word heretic is in your post. And such a charge ought be accompanied by your proof texts, which, if you were honest, you could conjure (as in use in your false witness role) from my many posts on this thread. For your edification, I have never been a member of your religion, Catholicism.

Apparently, you aren't old enough to know the difference between a heretic and an apostate.

[boatbums]

Do not judge, or you will be judged. For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. (Matthew 7:1,2)

You therefore have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. (Romans 2:1)

[ebb tide]

Your fear of seeing a spiritually discerned truth is palpable in your fingers in the ears and hands over the eyes response.

>>5) And I said: Woe is me, because I have held my peace; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people that hath unclean lips, and I have seen with my eyes the King the Lord of hosts.<<

>>6) And one of the seraphims flew to me, and in his hand was a live coal, which he had taken with the tongs off the altar. 7) And he touched my mouth, and said: Behold this hath touched thy lips, and thy iniquities shall be taken away, and thy sin shall be cleansed.<< Isaiah Chapter 6.

Why don't you get back to me after your visit with a hot coal.

[ebb tide]

what makes the son of Mary, The Christ?

Could it be that it's because Son of Mary was conceived by the Holy Ghost? Or is that beyond your level of comprehension?

[MHGinTN]

As I am one who has been born from above, by The Grace of God In Christ Jesus, your effort to insult me with your juvenile comment has no effect. I am firm in my belief/conviction that I have been born from above, not by 'feelings' but because of the Promise of God for my belief/reliance upon Christ Jesus as my Savior.

Look at the definition of heretic (since I have never been trapped in your catholiciism, I am not an apostate to your religion). You keep trying (and your sidekick) to establish Mariology and accuse me and others of rejecting such 'tradition' of your religion. I would be heretical from your perspective, but since Marian worship is blasphemous I would be no heretic to Christianity by rejecting your blasphemies. Want to try again?

[imardmd1]

I do try to minimize MY pontification on how things should be interpreted.

Yeah, I know that it is a gift to make one's comments wry, meaningful, and pithy all at once. I know that mine tend to rely on the pontification approach, but there it is. You do make your point, in unforgettable ways. Keep on, my FRiend.

[MHGinTN]

You have a good start with Hid divine conception in Mary's womb, but don't stop there; reason this to the better conclusion of why Jesus is The Christ. Could any 'good man' have taken the burden of your sin nature to the Cross? Could a very excellent man with only one little sin in his nature have been The Christ for your salvation? ... To be the Lamb of God Who takes away the sin s of the world, Jesus had to have GOD's Spirit Life in Him such that He did not sin because it was not in His nature.

Would you agree so far?

[MHGinTN]

Now, since the Baby conceived in Mary’s womb had a nature which could not come from someone born in the line from Adam, with a sin nature ... surely you can finish that sentence!

[ebb tide]

As I am one who has been born from above...

Do you deny your earthly mother and father? If not, do you honor them?

Do you know what the Fourth Commandment is?

[ebb tide]

Could a very excellent man with only one little sin in his nature have been The Christ for your salvation?

And what exactly was that "one little sin" in Jesus Christ's nature? Tell us, please.

[MHGinTN]

You are confused. JESUS did not sin and could not sin because, as the BIBLE clearly states, His seed remained within Him. To be the Lamb of GOD Who takes away the sins of the world, Jesus had to have GOD's nature in Him.

Now, could Mary the mother of Jesus, contribute that GOD Nature to Jesus? ... Think. This is not rocket surgery ...

[ebb tide]

Rocket surgery?

Who’s the confused one?

[MHGinTN]

I threw a little humor in since you appear to be getting a little hot under your collar.

[MHGinTN]

So, could Mary the mother of Jesus, contribute that GOD Nature to Jesus?

[ebb tide]

What in the heck is “God Nature”?

Do y’all just make crap up?

[metmom]

metmom was thus judged a heathen and a publican when Mr. Luther was excomumnicated by the church 500 years ago.

Except that metmom wasn't even around 500 years ago, and so was not judged then.

Also, the Catholic church has since changed it's position on Luther.

According to Pope Benedict XVI Luther is no longer a heretic.

You need to get with the program.

[metmom]

And what exactly was that "one little sin" in Jesus Christ's nature? Tell us, please.

You're wrong. Jesus didn't have one little sin in His nature.

So why are you asking someone what it is?

[MHGinTN]

Oh my! And you are claiming to be a Christian yet have not a clue what is installed in the human spirit when one is born from above? ... we have a lot of ground to cover here!

God is without sin, HIS Nature is Righteousness. It is written that when Abraham believed GOD righteousness was imputed to Abraham.

Jesus explained to His disciples that He is God with us, for if one has seen Jesus one has seen The Father ... in the only way one can see GOD at the limits of our perception.

Jesus had GOD's righteous Nature in HIM. Could Mary have passed that Nature to Jesus?

[ebb tide]

Jesus had GOD's righteous Nature in HIM.

Wrong! Jesus Christ is God. He is the Second Person of the Holy Trinity.

I'm done with you and your fantasies.

[ealgeone]

I've always found it interesting that none of the NT writers ever mentioned Mary in the capacity of being this great intercession. You would think if this were widely believed by the apostles they'd made mention with in Romans or 1 Peter or John. Not once do the mention any of the belief Catholics have ascribed to Mary regarding intercession, mediator, etc.