Posted on 01/02/2017 4:25:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
...If the Church were to change its rules on shared Eucharistic Communion it would “go against Revelation and the Magisterium”, leading Christians to “commit blasphemy and sacrilege,” an Italian theologian has warned.
Drawing on the Church’s teaching based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, Msgr. Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, stressed that non-Catholic Christians must have undertaken baptism and confirmation in the Catholic Church, and repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.
Msgr. Bux was responding to the Register about concerns that elements of the current pontificate might be sympathetic of a form of “open Communion” proposed by the German Protestant theologian, Jürgen Moltmann.
The concerns have arisen primarily due to the Holy Father’s own comments on Holy Communion and Lutherans, his apparent support for some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion, and how others have used his frequently repeated maxim about the Eucharist: that it is “not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.”
The debate specifically over intercommunion with Christian denominations follows recent remarks by Cardinal Walter Kasper who, in a Dec. 10 interview with Avvenire, said he hopes Pope Francis’ next declaration will open the way for intercommunion with other denominations “in special cases.”
The German theologian said shared Eucharistic communion is just a matter of time, and that the Pope’s recent participation in the Reformation commemoration in Lund has given “a new thrust” to the “ecumenical process.”
Pope Francis has often expressed his admiration for Cardinal Kasper’s theology whose thinking has significantly influenced…the priorities of this pontificate, particularly on the Eucharist.
For Moltmann, Holy Communion is “the Lord's supper, not something organized by a church or a denomination”...
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et: That sounds demonic.
Why would you expect anything different from someone who was not saved, or is not saved?
The unsaved don't have the Holy Spirit in them. That doesn't leave much.
Sinners sin. It's what they do. How could you expect them to have any spiritual interest or desires when they are dead to the Spirit?
So, in whatever flavor of “religion” you claim, do you still believe in mortal sins.
And if so, have any changed?
You cannot worship God through worshiping Mary. Mary is not God.
Attention, worship, prayers, whatever, directed towards Mary are robbed from God.
Peter got it. Catholics need to take lessons from him.
Acts 10:25-26 When Peter entered, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I too am a man.”
We’re to follow Jesus, not men.
You seem to not only encourage that, but to be proud of doing it.
You can worship and pray to God directly without going *through* another human being.
Claiming you can do it through another human being to justify the practice is just more of the rationalization and mental gymnastics Catholics use to justify their disobedience to what God tells us in Scripture.
And if so, have any changed?
Since I am no longer in that other religion, my views have changed. I consider ALL sins to be mortal sins, like when Adam and Eve committed that one, tiny little, seemingly inconsequential sin. It turned out to be a "mortal sin." Every single, solitary sin ever committed, is a "mortal sin." There are no degrees of sin. Sin is sin is sin is sin. Some sins have greater consequences, but sin is sin.
Since I doubt any of us are going to try to blow smoke and try to BS anyone, and claim we don't sin, all it takes to send someone to Hell, is one tiny, little, seemingly inconsequential sin. Since we are all under the same condemnation, I just wonder how some people intend to try to bluff their way into Heaven? It would be interesting to know.
Really? Based on what that I ever wrote that suggested that?
So how are you skating by?
All sin kills.
It’s all mortal.
But we don’t make the distinction so that we can commit *venial* sins with impunity and figure that we can just pay them off easier.
Catholics take sin too lightly with their layers of classifications on the seriousness of it.
Every sin we commit is enough to damn one to eternity without God and every sin is what put Christ on the cross no matter how insignificant the Catholic church would make it appear by teaching that it can be dealt with in purgatory.
The Catholic church is the one which downplays sin too much.
And Catholics treat it like a joke.
I saw that often enough in my life and still see and hear it even today when Catholics are talking.
Like this.
Luke 18:9-14 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’
But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
It's called "Forgiveness".
Our sins are FORGIVEN by God when we place out faith and trust in Jesus and His righteous life is credited to our account.
To whom do you confess your sins? And who forgives or retains them?
Or are you another cherry-picker of the Bible?
[23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained. John Chapter 20.
It's a judicial pardon for ALL our wrongdoing.
Blanket forgiveness.
We can never be tried for those crimes again.
So all are saved?
God Himself.
And who forgives or retains them?
Nobody retains them ever.
There is never any record of God retaining any sin of any person.
1 John 1:7-10 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Do Catholics understand what *faithful and just* mean?
He PROMISES here that if we confess, He will forgive.
Period.
That's it. It's a done deal.
God forgives them, always. He never retains them.
Wouldn't this otherwise be known as necromancy? Besides, how do we even know for sure who the believers are? Some may be praying to people in Hell.
John 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
Again.....
Luke 18:9-14 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’
But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
Only those who have been born from above of the Spirit are saved, and that happens when you quit trusting yourself, your religion, your baptism, your confirmation, your priest, your good works, your prayers to saints, your time in purgatory, and transfer that amount of trust to Jesus alone.
So you're claiming Jesus Christ lied? That figures.
Yep. Necromancy it is. Honestly, I don’t even get how people can write themselves a pass for that, just because some human tells them it’s OK. Anytime I’ve ever been in the presence of someone mumbling or chanting in front of any sort of statue, it has totally creeped me out.
Peace,
SR
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