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To: Mr. Douglas

“And when he says, “I and the father are one” I see it a bit like when I say I and my wife are one.”

It’s a bit different. When husband and wife become one the two souls, one representing the masculine and one the feminine merge together with Love to use each other as a crutch to become one in the eyes of God. However it is better to remain single and become whole within oneself.

As to the “I and the father are one” that is a bit different. Especially when Jesus adds John 10:38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”....John 14:20 On that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you. and....John 17:21 that they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

The first time Jesus says “My Father and I are One” is after he came through the dark night of the soul and temptations in the wilderness.

People are using the wrong model to understand these scriptures. Imagine Russian Nesting Dolls where we are the little doll in the middle, Jesus is a larger doll that we exist within, and God is the largest doll that we all exist within. In each situation all dolls exist within the largest doll and at the same time, the contents of the largest doll exist within all other dolls, including us. That is the structure of us with Jesus and God. (It is also the reason that you cannot get to God except by going through the doll between us and God which represents Jesus in the model.)

Bottom line is, as we grow spiritually, our consciousness expands to a higher awareness just as Jesus’ did in the wilderness. I communicate directly with Jesus every day in meditation and prayer. His complete Love described as the wonderful “treasure buried in the field” is there for us always, every day at all times.

This is also the reason for Matthew 24:25 in that the Messiah will be seen in the East and the West at the same time as we exist within Jesus. Just as blood flows within our bodies, the Holy Spirit is the consciousness of God that flows within Jesus and us if we are in Him. This is also why blasphemy or denial of the Holy Spirit is the greatest sin, as to do so you will never find Jesus or Our Father.

When a person is born of the spirit, they begin to perceive reality directly from their soul or spirit and are not limited to the five senses of the physical body. This is how you see and experience Jesus daily.

I pray that my words do not confuse as I am describing my own experiences rather than theorizing an interpretive meaning of scriptures from theory.

By the way, the reason that LOVE is so critically important is that LOVE is the glue that holds the soul together so it can grow to higher levels. It is as the cement in a building as without it a higher building would collapse quickly when shaken. The same is true when a soul is shaken by life’s experiences.


17 posted on 12/20/2016 9:58:28 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

This is also the reason that time and space collapse as we grow spiritually. If our consciousness expands toward Jesus within whom we all exist, then all other human beings also exist within us and we realize that we on earth are all one. (This is why “Loving thy Brother is also Loving God... 1 Peter 4)

Yesterday at approximately 3 pm I went through a full blown physical and emotional traumatic experience that was not my own. It was not until 5 pm that I learned that the event creating the experience in me was being experienced by a very close friend over 450 miles and about 8 hrs drive away. We had not communicated at all during the day, nor was the event expected by either of us. When I felt the trauma, it felt as though I had been run over by a truck, both physically and emotionally. Immediately at 3 pm, I left my office and went to another room for prayer and meditation in order to raise my consciousness above the level of pain. The prayerful energy flowing into me was felt by my friend over 450 miles away at the same time.

My friend and I both existed within Jesus and I was experiencing her experience through our Jesus connection. This is also how I read the thoughts and stored memories of people around me as they exist within me. Jesus did the same thing many times in the New Testament.

Remember Him saying, John 14:12 Very truly, I tell you, the one who believes in me will also do the works that I do and, in fact, will do greater works than these, because I am going to the Father..... Jesus was not lying!!!


19 posted on 12/20/2016 10:16:08 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Actually, as I read your post, yours is the closest any other human being has come to describing it as I see it.

Nicely done!


21 posted on 12/20/2016 10:20:35 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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