he could be the creator and still be a separate being.
was is it so hard to conceive of the possibility that God and Jesus could be two separate beings in heaven?
Why would Jesus pray to himself? how can he be standing to the right of God if he is God? It seems reasonable to assume the possibility exists that they are not one in the same.
And if they are not ... I am proposing a belief system that allows us Christians to still believe that Jesus came to earth and died for our sins, that he we need only accept him as our savior and lord to earn eternal salvation. God has the power to create a son in heaven if he so wished, God has the power to allow that son to come to earth to die for our sins, and to allow that son to be the final decider on who does or does not get to come to heaven.
All I am saying is that Jesus does not have to be God for God to have given him all the power and authority necessary to grant us salvation.
Your argument is very mormonesque.
Then why did Jesus repeatedly say He WAS God? Why did Scripture teach the same if it wasn't the truth? Do you think some Christians somewhere just made up the whole doctrine because they had nothing better to do? We believe it because God's word teaches us to believe it. It was taught from the very start of Christianity and has always been believed. To deny it would be to deny one of the basic tenets of the faith.
And that is completely a hypothetical argument which has no bearing on reality. Why even waste your time on it?
It's not the case. It never was the case. It never will be the case.
Aside from making a useless theological argument, it changes nothing and means nothing.
Jesus IS God. He made that more than abundantly clear while He was living here on earth with the words from His own mouth.
The pharisees certainly understood His claim and they rejected it. That is why they charged Him with blasphemy and that was the excuse they used for having Him crucified.
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Obviously you are not a Bible reader.
Yeshua and the Father are one. They are “Elohim.”
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And perhaps God later gave authority to Mohammed to be the chief prophet instead of Jesus...
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Clearly this is Jesus speaking...Are David and we Christians the sons of God, or the sons of the Son of God??? Jesus is speaking as Jesus, and he is also speaking as God...